To think some posters are naive about SS?

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I see many posts where people seem to believe either that SS will offer support and that parents who are loving and coping but struggling can contact them for a hand-hold, or posts where people believe a not ideal yet normal situation can and should be reported.

AIBU to think posters are naive about what SS actually do?

The shifty was meant to be shitty and I'm sorry you struggle to understand things. Hopefully, things will get better.

Happy to? Or its actually quite difficult to remove children from even awful parents? (Which makes it all the more obvious they aren't spending their time removing children from great parents).

Goodness, you really struggle with convos. Let's try and make it a little more clear. There are some really bad sw's who are removing some children from good parents and leaving some children with bad parents. HTH.

So you say. But you need to understand that "what you say" is not the same thing as "truth".

You haven't answered WHY you think SWs are taking away kids from great parents, and how and why the courts are just letting them. You don't have any answer for this, because you know there is none.

Are you involved with the "forced adoption" website? Your tone is very similar to that paranoid ranting site.

Try and rtft, I've answered those questions before.

offupop, it's interesting about the young age of the SW. I've heard quite a few mention this, that's when they're straight from uni isn't it? I'm wondering what's happening with the training? Our SW was around 23 and we had a terrible time with her, particularly our dc.

Naveloranges did they ever explain why they were leaving two young children with a serious addict? How were they reporting on it, if you don't mind me asking?

No you haven't. You've skirted theme each time with bluster and nonsense instead of an actual answer. Why is that? '

You are funny goodgirls Are they chucking out the pubs early tonight?

aunt your 'know how it feels' comment does nothing but demonstrate your ignorance. Not only ignorance in the general sense, given at no point have I made any digs or tried to point score. But complete ignorance of the reality that there are different perspectives and experiences to yours.

Personally, the one positive for me is that I genuinely don't give a fuck what anyone thinks of me, and I'm certainly not about to offended by some random on the Internet. But it's incredibly telling about you that you feel the need to 'let me know how it feels'. Essentially wanting sympathy for your experience but completely lacking in empathy for mine. And you don't even see the irony in questioning whether I might know how it feels to be disbelieved.

And fwiw I had a dx of autism too. Of course that doesn't mean I think claw deserved her experience, or that in her situation they should hound a parent who is innocent 'just incase' they're covering up abuse. But nor does it mean they should back off without investigating concerns. The problem is when they aren't fully investigated, so dc like I was are left to it, or parents like claw or you are made to suffer needlessly.

Nobody has said ss don't fuck up. They do. But if you want to really change anything it needs to be done with an open mind as to why the majority of fuck ups occur and in a rational manner.

still not able to answer then?

Its funny when people keep saying "I've answered that" rather than just answering, even if they think they are repeating. It's almost as if they don't want to answer.....

Yep, pubs are out.

That post was for thehog

I do have an open mind hog but it sounds like you need to sober up a bit first?

I do have an open mind hog but it sounds like you need to sober up a bit first?

Do you believe this? If you keep repeating baseless bollocks do you think everybody will start coming round to your way of thinking? Gas lighting doesn't work on an open forum like this.

Anybody can see who is having the most difficulty articulating their "point" in the last few posts.

aunt if you want to goad someone I'm afraid you're wasting your time. I'm stone cold sober as it happens, but tbh I could be blind drunk, and you still wouldn't get the rise you appear to want.

So you can talk about pubs in repeated posts but you can't answer one simple question? You can cut and paste from where you claim to have answered previously if you like.

My mistake then thehog. What did you want to then goodgirls?

tess it didn't work on you earlier with the support from optimus, it's not working on me, and nor do I imagine it will work on anyone else. Perhaps once aunt realises her tactics aren't swaying anyone she might find something constructive to contribute.

What did you want to know

Hiya tess, another one just rolled out the pub?

Thehogfather

I actually found some common ground earlier in the thread and I was hoping I would again. Then the barmy one turned up and two or one and a sock apparently made a mob and all discussion goes out of the window. The complete lack of self awareness is frightening, baiting an argument is what they do because name calling is all they have. They could have so much more if they engaged their brain and actually researched this stuff or were just willing to think about it rationally.

I hoped your post (with the hypothetical terrible SW) would have made a difference because it explained something that I was having difficulty articulating. Oh well.

"roll out the barrel, dah de dah"......

What did you all have for your takeaways or did you eat in the pub?

Did you buy any nuts or was there plenty on the table already?