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"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/08/2018 00:12

Title based on what a college professor used to tell us when the going got tough.

"Just remember when you're standing shoulder deep in horse shit, there's a pony in there somewhere. So just keep digging".

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:14

I concur with Lweji. It will hopefully swing some people who were undecided, but the die hard Scrotus fans will blame Manafort and Cohen and insist they're lying.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/08/2018 22:15

Oh Lordy! So near and yet so far.
Flowers and Gin to everyone keeping up!

Sarahlou63 · 21/08/2018 22:15

Wow - the news I and so many others have been waiting for! Can't be much longer now :)

TheFrendo · 21/08/2018 22:16

Manafort's lawyer says his client is 'evaluating his options'.

legal experts say: The fact that Manafort did not testify could be useful if he wants to do a deal on the second set of charges coming up.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:17

'If Trump is not charged, the documents will not name him. It is DOJ policy not to name uncharged people. He would be referred to as something like "Person A". What will be most revealing is what the charging documents say, if anything, about Trump's involvement in the offense.'

Ah yes, the old 'unindicted co-conspirator'.

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Quantumblue · 21/08/2018 22:18

Good times.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:22

In case anyone is keeping track Grin:

National security advisor:
GUILTY.

Foreign policy advisor:
GUILTY.

Personal attorney:
GUILTY.

Deputy campaign chair:
GUILTY.

Campaign chair:
GUILTY.

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Roussette · 21/08/2018 22:26

Thanks for all the reporting Across. I keep getting muddled up which is guilty of what Grin

Roussette · 21/08/2018 22:28

@Acosta
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Source close to WH says WH had hoped for favorable verdict in Manafort case as they had plans to attack the Mueller investigation in the event of mistrial or not guilty verdict. The plan was to attack the Mueller investigation if the Manafort case had gone their way, source said

AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:30

Sigh. Business as usual on board the Crazy Train

twitter.com/davidcrosss/status/1032016550746681344

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:32

You and me both Roussette!

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lionheart · 21/08/2018 22:34

Jim Acosta

Verified account

@Acosta
8m8 minutes ago

'Source close to WH says WH had hoped for favorable verdict in Manafort case as they had plans to attack the Mueller investigation in the event of mistrial or not guilty verdict. The plan was to attack the Mueller investigation if the Manafort case had gone their way, source said.'

Gumpendorf · 21/08/2018 22:35

Prosecutors have until Aug. 29 to decide what they will do about the 10 mistrial counts in Manafort trial.

twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1032016197313867776

cozietoesie · 21/08/2018 22:39

Thanks, Gump.

lionheart · 21/08/2018 22:40

'nothing to do with Russian collusion' according to Trump.

Gumpendorf · 21/08/2018 22:40

The plan was to attack the Mueller investigation if the Manafort case had gone their way, source said.'

That much was obvious and why many of us were so scared.

Today will be the equivalent of those Watergate moments that Maddow is so good at recounting. My hope has been restored - a teeny, tiny bit. Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:40

Trump ranting on air (on Fox News)

Witch hunt! No Collusion!! This is a Disgrace!!

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lionheart · 21/08/2018 22:41

Docs.

www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-

lionheart · 21/08/2018 22:43

That's their line ... I guess it will be repeated at the rally.

Roussette · 21/08/2018 22:44

I want him to burst a blood vessel whilst ranting ... his blood pressure must be sky high

Gumpendorf · 21/08/2018 22:45

I was just going to ask what Fox is saying, Across. Grin

Gumpendorf · 21/08/2018 22:47

Today is one of those "it feels like the season finale but we're really only halfway through the season" episodes of the U.S. government

twitter.com/jilltwiss/status/1032007881988755456

I fear she's right.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:48

We took one for the team and switched over, Gump. I still feel dirty Grin. We're back on CNN now.

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/08/2018 22:50

A bit of levity

"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't
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lettuceWrap · 21/08/2018 22:52

The chickens are coming home to roost Smile

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/catastrophic-day-for-trump-paul-manafort-michael-cohen-are-felons.html