To think hot tubs in back gardens are a bit shit and anti social?

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I'm sure they're nice and realxing and perfectly acceptable if you live a house with a huge garden and no close neighbours nearby, but my neighbours have just bought one. We live in a row of terraces, with small gardens and are overlooked from every direction. It's slap bag in the middle of the back yard and I can actually see them sitting in it if I go upstairs.

All weekend Ive heard the constant hum from the pumps and the stench of chlorine filling the air. Now they're sitting in, shouting like they're deaf because they can't hear themselves talking over the pump.

If I'm honest I also find them a bit tacky. I can't think of anything worse. Just have a sodding bath! DB's next door neighbours have and he's been moaning about it for ages, thought he was being a killjoy until one was installed here! Now I get it.

Thanks Bluebell.

MrsChollySawcutt
I will leave juvenile insults to you (although you aren't very good at them). I will explain it simply...

normal core temperature of the human body is around 37°C, and skin temperature can be a few degrees cooler than that, so when you immerse your body into hotter water or air, heat is transferred to it. ... Hence, water doesn't feel as hot as dry air at the same temperature.

OK?

No. Not correct. You actually say: “heat is transferred to it”, destroying your own reasoning.

What you’re really doing (assuming your spa thermometer is accurate) is raising your epidermis, dermis and hypodermis temperature to that of the water. Thus, when you exit the water you will feel cooler as the air temperature is lower. You’ve heated yourself, not cooled yourself.

You’ll be back where you started from in no time. You actually say: “feels refreshing and cool”, which is a very short lived ‘feeling’ of course.

It’s like the colleague that enters the office in winter complaining of the excessive heat when the office is at the correct temperature. For quite a few minutes their body continues to replace heat loss which is no longer occurring now that they are in out of the cold. Thus they ‘feel’ the heat.

As for the insults - I’ve thrown none, it is only you, and I’m sorry if the logic and the science confuse you. (Bio degree, Chem degree, and one other that would only upset you in the circumstances)

i hate my neigbours the pump is bloody loud and we are in a terrence and they are sometimes in it until 3 am and if i have the window open i cannot sleep the nosy is that loud.

Swimlyn sorry but you are wrong.

Happy to help.

Oh and I would list my academic quals but I wouldn't ever be so gauche.

Suffice to say, I'm not intimidated.

MrsChollySawcutt is right! It's all about how heat is transferred. Air temperature feels "hotter" because water in your sweat lowers your skin temperature by several degrees due to the process of evaporation thus making the air temperature feel relatively "hot" in comparison. Whereas, the difference between skin temp and the environment is smaller when you are immersed in water (the evaporation of sweat is less efficient when humidity is high/you are underwater).

They are other factors to consider- direct sunlight etc

Qualifications: SAHM with an unused PhD

Quite apart from the lovely scientific explanation above of how a hot tub can be refreshing - not just when you get out but while you are still in there!
One simple answer is that the hot tub on our Spanish terrace has the temperature reduced in the summer months so that we can use it as a plunge pool. Wow - a thermostat. Who'd have thought!? 😉

There's some really nasty jealousy going on in this post!

I scraped gcse science so can add nothing! But like you Adner during the heat wave we took the temperature down and was a cool tub - lovely!

I'd love a hot tub but not the faff of keeping it clean.

Snobbery is rife on here as ever, which is oddly comforting. Seeing silly people make snap judgements of others based on how they live/decorate/relax is what keeps me coming back to MN. I can't imagine ever caring what such ridiculous people would think of me so it's just funny to see how wound up they get over something as innocuous as a bloody hot tub!

My neighbours are lovely. They converted their garage to contain a woodburner and their sex pond within.

I love love love love the smell of chlorine (yes I'm weird)
I would love a hot tub but sadly can only just afford a paddling pool 🤣🤣

MrsChollySawcutt
Swimlyn sorry but you are wrong.
Happy to help.

Hmm… Gauche – you obviously need to look that up.

Ignorance is bliss. Constantly saying someone is wrong does not somehow make that a truth.

Final effort: So after another hot day, you are hot and want to cool down?

Faced with a bath with water at 32C and another bath at 39C you would choose the hotter one, as you want to feel cooler.

Yeah, right!

Surely most posters here would know which to choose, educated or not?

Swimlyn - that's not the question here though, what you have now asked is irrelevant. As are your erroneous views.

Off to enjoy a quiet Sunday afternoon in the lovely hot tub with my lovely family.

End of conversation.

MrsChollySawcutt
what you have now asked is irrelevant

Couldn’t be more relevant. Others can see it for what it is. Ask a Primary teacher or even the postie.

You've genuinely hurt me with your lack of response, especially as I hold your opinion in such high regard.

So, no answers to the questions - I guess you were just trolling all along. Don't get too hot in there!

Swinlyn I think you've misunderstood the question. I believe it was along the lines of why does 15º C air feel pleasant but 15º C water feels cold (if I'm not mistaken). Of course 39ºC would be the warmer option in the scenario you give.

Believe it or not it is possible to turn the hot tub to a cooler temperature and enjoy it in the hot sun

Ask a Primary teacher or even the postie.

When I lived overseas we had a lovely, solid one which was built into the deck. Lovely fir wine drinking, star gazing and talking. We had sex in it, a lot. Anyone not using theirs ‘fully’ is really missing a treat.

It was properly filtered & treated.

A blow up one leaning against the neighbours fence annoying the crap out of them...not so much.

OK Swimlyn, I'm really doubting your academic credentials now.

1. Gauche means unsophisticated and socially awkward. I would say that's a pretty apt description of someone boasting about their (probably fictional) scientific qualifications on a MN thread about hot tubs.

1. The scientific point or hypothesis under discussion was the cooling effect of water that is roughly equivalent to body temperature on an extremely hot day. Asking a dumbass question about whether water is colder at x or y temperature does not provide any evidence that is relevant to the original hypothesis. It is therefore as I said, an irrelevant question. This above all else makes me doubt your scientific ability. Or did your many degrees course not cover the Scientific Method?

And yes, I'd rather have this conversation with any of the primary school teachers and post office workers I know. They are all far less combative and probably know just as much about science as you.

I like my hot tub, sorry that upsets you so much.

My mil has one and my gs2 went round one weekend to visit whilst her two granddaughters were in with her. I dont think he got what it was because he got in and did a wee. You should have seen their faces.

Never been a fan, always thought they were a chylmadia soup. Think of all the dead foot skin and verrucae floating around in the water not to mention pubes. Gross.

ElsieMc if you or any of your family have chlamydia you'd better pop into the STD clinic for some treatment.

As none of my family have STDs or verrucas I feel pretty safe in ours.

Love ours but I did think they were chavvy before we bought this house and hot tub was included. Dh tests the chemical levels daily and we have it professionally cleaned once a year with us cleaning the filters throughout the year. Ours is tucked away from view.

It's great for getting dc away from electronic devices etc. Don't go in with other couples though. I find that weird.

Love ours but I did think they were chavvy before we bought this house and hot tub was included. Dh tests the chemical levels daily and we have it professionally cleaned once a year with us cleaning the filters throughout the year. Ours is tucked away from view.

It's great for getting dc away from electronic devices etc. Don't go in with other couples though. I find that weird.

CremeBrulee If you look through the thread you will see that it is not me who gave them the nickname, it is well known on MN. However, I will take your medical advice and get us all checked out for STI's including my gs (9). I am sure you dont have verrucas nor pubes either.