Anyone else terrified about climate change

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How on earth can we sleep at night knowing we are just sleepwalking into the abyss. Our children and their children will suffer won't they.

www.nap.edu/read/13111/chapter/6#66

This one is very clear

I meant to definitely put a wink at the end of that last article

Domino-effect of climate events could move Earth into a ‘hothouse’ state

Leading scientists warn that passing such a point would make efforts to reduce emissions increasingly futile

Climate cascade: feedback loops could amplify one another, pushing Earth towards ‘hothouse’ state, warn scientists

www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/06/domino-effect-of-climate-events-could-push-earth-into-a-hothouse-state

Thank you! I’d only found the Forbes one when googling and it’s a bit vague.

I always thought it was common knowledge that the damage was probably irreversible now and that all we could do was to mitigate the effects of it or somehow adapt. Horrible thought obviously!

That nap.edu one I am not even attempting to read just now (sorry). I’ll save it for later!

Is the Guardian one about reaching 2 degrees being the tipping point or the 400 whatsits? I’m not a scientist, not sure if you can tell..?

I wouldn’t worry so much about the end of the world if it was going to be a short sharp ending, like if an asteroid hit us in 150 years.

Unfortunately from everything I’ve read, the likelihood is the next 100 years will see more frequent and extreme droughts, harsher hurricanes, floods, fires, crop failures, causing mass evacuations and migrations, and all this will cause conflicts and wars everywhere. Society will disintegrate into desperate struggles to survive at the end, it won’t be human civilisation as we know it.

I agree with the few posters talking about useless wasteful manufacturing of stuff. We really needed a stint of post-WWII style rationing world-wide to avoid the tipping point, but didn’t come close to that!

I think humans as a species can still survive but only a select few - Elon Musk’s descendants etc!

I feel sad for my kids and their kids, but, like most people, I seem to be able to function well without thinking about this stuff most of the time..😕 that’s the problem with human nature.

Well exactly lofty, it will not be short or sharp end for humanity at all. Also a horrible thought. I also tend to agree that some humans will survive for a good bit longer.

The erm... good news is, it will happen so slowly we probably won’t notice as much. Boiling frog type thing.

Some of the more extreme environmentalists I’ve read a bit about say just enjoy life and the planet while you can. I try to live by that, while not being a total douche about meat eating, driving etc. Just in case the end isn’t nigh!

Unfortunately from everything I’ve read, the likelihood is the next 100 years will see more frequent and extreme droughts, harsher hurricanes, floods, fires, crop failures, causing mass evacuations and migrations, and all this will cause conflicts and wars everywhere. Society will disintegrate into desperate struggles to survive at the end, it won’t be human civilisation as we know it
course it will love.
Just like Brexit was going to cause ww3 within months of the referendum

It’s silly to try and predict either way how the next hundred years will go. I mean, for all we know we’ll have been taken over by robots by then anyway - now there’s a cheery thought!

Also, live is a desperate struggle to survive for many people already. It has been in the past in this country too. Not even that long ago.

It’s a horrible thing to think about, but taking things as they come and doing what we can is all we can do really.

*life

Think before you drive, fly, eat meat and dairy, and buy crap you don’t need.

If everybody did, we’d put a dent in it.

The problem is all of us and we can’t look to government and industry to act quickly enough.

Its like the plastic in The Ocean issue. A full 98 % of the waste is due to dumping in the Far East. They truly dont give a fuck. Of course a lot of it is due to our consumerism in the west.

HilboBaggins talks sense.

I don't know why anyone would give credence to Stephen Hawkin's proclamations on mankind's longevity. He was a cosmologist (whose discoveries are debatable), not a great seer on humanity. Much of what he says outside of his subject are more to do with a cult of personality rather than any great truths.

Engage with other scientists, read some Ray Kurzwiel of Marvin Minsky. Look at the potential humans have and the work people are actually doing. Advances in material science, biotech and new tech such as block-chain are all very exciting and augur well for humanity.

Don't panic. Educate yourselves and encourage your children to be educated rather than fearful.

Great problems always precipitate great change and until change is utterly incumbent, things have a habit of drifting along.

And as to the person who said it is imperative we immediately stop the industrialised world, what affect do you think that would have?

An immediate return to the Dark Ages, anarchy and ruin presumably.

Effect. GDY autocorrect.

I personally believe that the antibiotic resistance apoloclypse will wipe most of us out within 100 years.

Perhaps also a flu pandemic.

The future does not bode well, here in on the east coast of the states there is virtually no attempt to change. Grocery stores double and triple bag everything, recycling is optional, consumerism is rife with everyone wanting more and ordering from Amazon every day. Even the young aren't aware or concerned. A woman told me recently that Americans only want convenience and having to take all these extra steps will never fly here. The only places I see make a half hearted attempt is whole foods and Trader Joe's and even then it's mainly white upper middle class customers. They're trying to ban plastic straws and the uproar is incredible. I can't see our great grandchildren being able to inhabit most of the earth,

Carbon parts per million: This link shows it's exponential now.

climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/

Any child born after 2016 will never see CO2 levels below 400 ppm (parts per million)

www.co2.earth/

Earth is currently in the sixth extinction regarding all flora and fauna.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/10/earths-sixth-mass-extinction-event-already-underway-scientists-warn

Stock up on non perishable food stuffs if you can, now. This includes sanitary provision as well.

Supermarkets are being warned to stockpile as well.

Yep. Stock up on tampons because the Earth is doomed.

Quality advice.

Regarding wars, famine, plagues, epidemics.

These have all happened before. It didn't wipe out the world's population (in fact it led to more equality in monetary terms).

The population of the world when I was born was over 3.3 billion people. It now stands just over 50 years later at 7.8 billion. Some believe it will never get above 10 billion.

Why thank you Ilikeyourhairyhands

Pity you missed out on all the other advice.

Perhaps you believe the world is flat and that unicorns exist?

I am scared.

I'm livid at the senseless deforestation for fucking palm oil, and on a smaller scale the chopping down of trees in our cities, for buildings, because Network Rail decided so, because people don't want to deal with leaves in their gardens.

I'm sick of reading all the threads here where someone has decided their neighbours must chop a tree down because it suits them and so on.

Bizarrely there is an advert for Alexa next to this thread. It reads:

'Alexa, turn on the garden lights.'

It really has come to this.

Tin foil hats out in force tonight!

No worries placemat.

Enjoy your bunker.

And no to your other questions. I believe in science and the ingenuity of humanity.