Anyone else terrified about climate change

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How on earth can we sleep at night knowing we are just sleepwalking into the abyss. Our children and their children will suffer won't they.

*planet

The moorland fires on the outskirts of Manchester in June, worst in living memory.

Of course there's always been wildfires, but recently there's been a large upturn in their numbers, scope and intensity.

Of course there's always been wildfires, but recently there's been a large upturn in their numbers, scope and intensity
really? you have actual data for this?

'Spaghetti... 200 species per day hurtle into the abyss of extinction, thanks to human industrialised activity, 10x the background rate. Humans are welcome to fuck up their own species and face an early demise, but let's not take down all the other creatures and lifeforms on the plant with us.'

I agree entirely. But it's a fact that even when humans know of this devastation they don't do anything to stop it. They only act when totally forced to. That's a feature of human beings - it what makes them parasitic in terms of their relationship with earth. As with many parasites their own activities may finally do away with them.

Vandrew we should be heading for an ice age but instead the climate is warming

Human activity pushing the climate into self-reinforcing and intensifying feedback loops. Once certain tipping points are reached (like the melting of the permafrost in Siberia, releasing gigatons of methane locked underneath) this will trigger further cataclysmic events.

www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/aug/15/humans-are-pushing-the-earth-closer-to-a-climate-cliff

goose if you can accept that we "should be" heading towards an ice age, does logic not say we could equally "should be" heading towards a warmer period?
Both being natural slight variations. we only had a mini ice age a few hundred years ago, we are due a slight upswing in temp

I'm a prepper. Being terrified is not a good state of mind.
Yes I am very concerned about climate change and yes I think it is manmade, before anyone starts on me.
Do what you can in terms of reduce reuse recycle. With the emphasis on the first two. Educate yourself and your children.
Being terrified helps no one.

hilbobaggins

I’m not remotely anxious (I’m not the OP) And it means what I said, that there is no doubt and no way to prevent it. All of the information is out there to be readily found. The tipping point has been in my lifetime.

The era of megafires in California:

California’s governor, Jerry Brown, has characterized these devastating wildfires as California’s “new normal”. But it would be a mistake to assume that the region has reached any semblance of a stable plateau. Instead, the likelihood of large, fast-moving, and dangerous wildfires will continue to increase in the coming decades – and it will combine with other demographic and ecological shifts to produce a large increase in the risk of megafires that threaten both human lives and the ecosystems we depend upon.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/07/california-wildfires-megafires-future-climate-change

There's some interesting articles in the Guardian about increasing temperatures in cities recently. I don't think we are going to die out in 150 years or whatever was mentioned earlier, buy I do think that slowly large parts of the globe will become uninhabitable and people will migrate to where they can survive. Things will be harder for alot of the population but I don't think humans will die out as a species completely.

The tipping point has been in my lifetime and what date was this then?

I don’t think there was a specific date but as far as I’m aware the ability to actually change things to save the majority of the human species passed a long time ago, the ability to save half of the human species passed just outside my lifetime, and the ability to save anyone has passed within my lifetime (last 50 years)

There are going to be mass migrations. That 11 minute video posted said (I think) the majority of the world live within 120 miles of a coast and that water levels will rise sufficiently to mean they will have to move.

I'm surprised so little has been reported about the wildfires in Sweden! Awful.

I don’t think there was a specific date but as far as I’m aware the ability to actually change things to save the majority of the human species passed a long time ago, the ability to save half of the human species passed just outside my lifetime, and the ability to save anyone has passed within my lifetime (last 50 years
but where have you got this from? If this was indeed hard scientific fact, there is no way it wouldn't be genral public knowledge by now and do you not think there would be mass hysteria ( other than on mumsnet) if we knew for certain that our species was going to become extinct in the very very immediate future?

Im not overly concerned about anthropogenic climate change at all.

I am concerned about pollution in the form of plastics in the Oceans and spilled oil but I believe the CO2 level modelling is flawed.

CO2 has been at drastically higher levels in the past than we are currently experiencing now. The Climate has been ever changing over the last 100,000 years. Ice ages, long years without summers, the younger dryas. In Roman times grapes were grown in North Yorkshire the climate was much warmer.

The doomsday predictions are a result of computer modelling nothing is certain.

This phenomena used to be called Global Warming..... Then for 18 years the world cooled so they changed the name to Climate change.

Theres big money to be made in subsidies in renewable energy, the level of hysteria needs to be kept up to keep the publics consent for this investment.

Yes lets look after out planet where possible, stop plastics from entering the eco system but lets not self flagellate and wring our hands in middle class angst .....

There are literally dozens of reasons why people are not hysterical about this.

I’m not hysterical because I will be dead. I do no more or less than anyone else. I don’t vote Green or get involved in environmental campaigns, nor have I stopped eating meat or driving.

As for ‘hard scientific fact’ - it’s very easily found. All of the research is out there.

www.thethirdpole.net/en/2017/11/17/earth-approaching-tipping-point-warn-scientists/

Number 8 is very interesting because I think you can agree it will not happen - and if that’s the result of our total inaction we are proper fucked

You are all just talk, how many of you are prepared to give up you're cars for example. My family doesn't drive and we have managed just fine.

Basically hardly any of you are really prepared to give up your comfortable lifestyles. So stop running around blaming other people and really do something meaningful.

The best thing we can do is go vegan, stop driving and have no kids.

I used to be Vegan but eat anything now (far less red meat though.) I left driving till late in life (love my car now ) and have a child (would like more but skint.)

I guess I used to be more of an environmentalist but stopped getting so stressed about it as it got me down. I guess many people are mostly interested in money and status symbols, having children and eating tasty food. (or junk food.)
As a species I don't think we will survive but it's our own fault. I'm not loosing sleep over it.