Tipping is not the done thing.

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You are not expected to tip in the UK! I'm not sure why some people think otherwise.
I would only tip if service was above and beyond but it is not an expectation and I wouldn't "cave" if it was crap service.

Husband and I had a rubbish meal at a well known resturant chain for our anniversary. I complained at the time but nothing was done about it.
Left husband to pay the bill and he tipped them. Bloody hell, I want my fiver back!
Seriously considering LTB over this.

Sorry, that was @ Janni

I genuinely don't remember tipping as a thing in the uk while growing up. In my experience at least it is a new thing here.

You realise that 'service charge' doesn't usually go to the staff?

Yes, the mention of this is something I picked up on earlier

In such a case I'd say it's something for the staff to take up with their employer, since the restaurant's policies aren't really the diner's business (and they may or may not be hearing an accurate account of things anyway)

As long as customers have paid once that should surely be enough

@Cardinal.

No I'm not saying they should do their own care, what I'm saying is why is it expected to tip a server and you're rude if you don't but many people who provide a vital service that can 100% improve a loved ones life don't regulary get tips

I haven't worked as a waitress for over ten years. It is not a "new thing".

I rarely tip unless someone has gone above and beyond or there are loads of us and it’s been a busy job, in the uk staff get paid a wage the same as people in so many other jobs. US it’s different. I would never tip for bad service ever! Last meal I went out to, woman took us to a table, waitress came over said ‘what can i get you’ and took the order, another waiter brought us our drinks, then the first one brought us our meals. Why would I tip for that? It wasn’t bad service, it was just service. They didn’t put any more in to the job than the man on the till in tesco or the TA at the local school. They don’t get tips. And get minimum wage.

Tokyo welcome to 2018 where people can walk in and out of jobs . I would like to live in that fantasy world of yours tho. Also yes I do spend two hours with my customers too. Dressing and undressing them running around the shop getting them sizes and sometimes even watching their kids while they try things on. So as I said before when I get tipped for working harder than they do I will be willing to tip them

Janni, I think you are missing some vital brain cog if you cant understand the basic and different economics/ market forces governing the -admittedly easy to mix up- businesses of restaurants and nursing/personal care. Who is the consumer, for a start? What is their economic free will?
I may be some time, I have some brick walls to repeatedly headbutt.

*cant walk in and out

welcome to 2018 where people can walk in and out of jobs

What has that got to do with the fact that anyone who doesn't tip in a restaurant is a miserable skinflint?

If you want tips and think you're so good at customer service, get a job as a waitress.

Yes Tokyo again welcome to 2018

@Cardinal. Please do hit your head and I hope it hurts.

Can't you see my point, people work hard for minimum wage and provide service and don't get paid extra in many jobs so why should a server?

You choose to tip and thats fine and my friend and I choose not to and that's also fine. I don't think it's fair to call people tight for not paying extra on top of already paying for their service.

@cardinalcat that is just disrespectful.

I hope your carers treat you in the same vein as you age

Not sure what point you're making. I knew what year it was before you told me.

Did you complain or just seethe quietly?
I almost always tip when eating out and consider people who don’t ( eg colleagues) as stingy.

@sweetsoemthings. Agreed, Tokyo you say get a job as a waitress as if it's easy to get a job nowadays.

Black tea it’s ok she might knock sense into herself

It isn't any harder to get a job in a restaurant than it is to get one in a shop.

We do tend to tip but I fucking hate it when a tip is added on automatically, I'll decide if I want to tip thank you.

LoveinTokyo ok I will spell it out for you. There is “NO jobs here” to just go and get . In a fantasy world maybe but in 2018 with restaurants closing everyday there is no jobs to just go and change jobs cause you fancy it . Maybe 10 years ago when you last waited tables jobs were easy to come by . But that is not the case now.

I make minimum wage (in retail so no tips) so can't afford to be tipping other minimum wage workers.
I expect my DH to, but only about 10%, and not if the service is bad!

loveintokyo A waitress has got to put up with look after you for two hours or more, and interact with you far more than someone working on a till, who you might exchange five words with.

janni So why not tip my carer friend, surely the family should realise she is looking after their loved ones for hours a day and therefore she should get a hefty tip? But she doesn't so why does a server.

Exactly, if it's an hours thing, why one but not the other?

Because nobody forces you to go out to restaurant for a meal. It is a choice, and a privilege.

What's that got to do with anything? You're saying if you save up for a meal and go out, then you're automatically deemed rich and privileged and should just cough up just because you assume they can?!

Wow I can’t believe there genuinely are many people that don’t tip in restaurants?! I would be so embarrassed to eat out with someone like that. This whole “no one tips me, why should I tip them?!” attitude!! Horrible.

@sweetsoemthings.

Here here

I get that the economy isn't looking great right now (thanks, Brexit), but there are, and always will be, restaurants looking for waiting staff.