Tipping is not the done thing.

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You are not expected to tip in the UK! I'm not sure why some people think otherwise.
I would only tip if service was above and beyond but it is not an expectation and I wouldn't "cave" if it was crap service.

Husband and I had a rubbish meal at a well known resturant chain for our anniversary. I complained at the time but nothing was done about it.
Left husband to pay the bill and he tipped them. Bloody hell, I want my fiver back!
Seriously considering LTB over this.

When we were broke students we tipped. Sometimes with £1 scratchcards, sometimes with vouchers for free coffee at Starbucks etc (students get loads of freebies) and a trick my sister taught me in the States, a dollar note origami.

I don’t know anyone who doesn’t tip if have a charity list apart from DH’s PILs who are not nice people.

Did you complain or just seethe quietly?

I addressed the issue at the time and was met with shrugged shoulders.
I considered it to be poor service and wouldn't have tipped.

Fabricwitch oh so you don’t get tips in retail either I was told earlier that if I don’t get tips in retail maybe I’m not good at my job 😂

@sailing. So someone who earns minimum wage providing a service and doesn't get tips must socially tip someone who earns the same of them for no offence to servers providing less service then my carer friend?

Seniorcitizen
You clearly have no fucking clue as to why people are working in the setvice industries. Some because they enjoy it and are bloody good at it some because there is nothing else available and some like myself because circumstances change and despite all your qualifications you need to take any job that comes along.
You clearly have no idea how bloody hard we work behind the scenes. I can do an 8hr shift with no beaks and nothing to eat unless i eat it standing up in.the prep area and leave it every few minutes when i have to serve customers/prep food/take food to customers so by time i get back its cold and fit for the bin. And at the end of a shift the whole damm place is cleaned including toilets (usually while people are still eating cos they dont care about closing times and we have to bloody serve them). We dont get to leave till its all done.
No its not legal not to have proper breaks but when you need the money nmw btw you suck it up. Tips are a godsend and we are always very grateful if customers put a bit of change in the jar. We dont ask nor put it on the bill but they do it anyway.

I was in a restaursnt today. The servic was fast, friendly and courteous and i left a tip. I wouldnt if it was a crap meal or service.

Maybe where to live Tokyo but not everywhere . I just done a search and not one came up within 15 miles of my house . So don’t assume cause something is like that in your area that it’s the same for everyone

This whole “no one tips me, why should I tip them?!” attitude!! Horrible.

What's your reasoning behind tipping some but not others?

What do you mean you've "just done a search"?

Where?

My mum comes from a culture where tipping is the norm and to not tip would be heresy! When she comes to visit, she literally (I’m really not joking) carries around a wad of £20 notes and everyone who so much as breathes in her direction is gifted one of them. Barmen, servers, taxi drivers, delivery people. I want to just hide in a hole when she starts to go for her wallet. No matter how much I explain, she can’t accept that it’s actually really awkward for everyone but her.

*where you live

The other day I ate at a bar with the kids (well, they ate, I had a couple of cocktails). The service charge was included on the bill. I asked the waitress if she would get the tip and she said no, they don't. So I got her to take the service charge off and gave her a fiver in cash instead.

That's the only circumstance in which I think it's ok. Or if they were really, really, really awful.

I worked in retail for 3 years and have worked in restaurants for 8 years. Even at Christmas in a busy department store, retail was nowhere near as shit as restaurant work. Unfortunately many people have it in their heads that servers are some sort of lesser lifeform so treat them like absolute shit. I'm a manager now but in my waitressing/hosting days people would regularly swear at me, throw plates/glasses, smear shit on toilet walls etc. As a manager I've had to phone the police more times than I can count due to threats on my team, unpaid bills, violent behaviour, drug dealing in the toilets and so on.

A decent server in a decent restaurant will try their damn hardest to provide you with personal service in the 1-2 hours they spend with you and your family. They certainly don't expect a tip, and honestly just a really sincere thank you or note can be enough, but a couple of quid is really appreciated.

toyko it’s a wonderful thing called the internet

Should I have tipped my midwife? What about the civil servant who sent me my tax code? Or my GP?
These are people carrying out practical functions where the cost of service is inbuilt and taken into account when setting the wages. If you are angry about the wages then be angry at the society that sets them, not the end consumer, the patient.
I still maintain that you are a disgraceful laughing stock if you deliberately fail to tip in restaurants where you've had decent service. Shameful and grabby.

Are all those people on minimum wage cardinal ?

@janni yes they certainly should! Carers do a fantastic job - but it’s a different job to the service industry. It’s not about who works harder... it’s all about expectations. Different jobs have different perks/ issues attached such as unsociable hours, dealing with rude customers etc. There are lots of wonderful aspects of caring too, my friend builds some wonderful relationships with her clients and I shanked by their families sometimes too (not always). A small monetary tip is the norm for good service in a restaurant - if you don’t want to pay that then you won’t be forced, but you have to accept that you will be viewed as rude by the majority.

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You do know that there isn't a search engine which will tell you all the waitressing jobs available in your area at a click of a button, right?

If that's how you go about getting a job then no wonder you think there aren't any!

Every single time I got a job in a restaurant, I updated my CV, printed off 30 copies, walked round town, went into every restaurant and asked if they were looking for staff, and gave a copy of my CV to anyone who showed any interest. And every time I had at least one job offer within two or three days.

Unihorn that's disgusting, WTAF is wrong with some people?!

I only tip if service is great. Most of the time I've scraped together enough to take my children out I can barely afford the bill. I work looking after disabled children on min wage and dont get tips. As for hair dressers I go to those haircut for £8 and just say keep the change from a tenner unless I'm paying by card

Well love there is 3 restaurants within 20 miles of my house not one looking for people . I could print off 30 copies of my cv and give them 10 each would that get me a job .As i said cause something is like that in your area don’t assume it’s the same for everyone .

OK, street-sweepers. Or other m/w council workers? Who is the consumer and what is the pay point?

@cardinalcat actually a lot of people do tip midwives! I turned up after having my baby girl with flowers and a thank you card - she had a pile of gifts in her room!!!

I'm not angry at the patient , you're a laughing stock for not getting that.

Again though why does one person that provides a service get extra on top of their wage compared to someone else who also provides a service for minimum wage, and doesn't get a tip.

I think you may need to hit your head on a wall again and preferably harder this time, but I will say again, I'm not angry at the patients or family of my carer friend for not tipping. I'm angry that people look down on others, for not tipping when possibly the waiter or waitress earns more than them.

3 restaurants within 20 miles?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

CardinalCat We send my obsgyn a v nice bottle champagne at Christmas 😃