Tipping is not the done thing.

[Lyndaishistory]

You are not expected to tip in the UK! I'm not sure why some people think otherwise.
I would only tip if service was above and beyond but it is not an expectation and I wouldn't "cave" if it was crap service.

Husband and I had a rubbish meal at a well known resturant chain for our anniversary. I complained at the time but nothing was done about it.
Left husband to pay the bill and he tipped them. Bloody hell, I want my fiver back!
Seriously considering LTB over this.

I know they are low paid but perhaps if they had worked hard at school to get a better paid job or not done a mickey mouse degree at a crap university they wouldn’t need to eaiting tables.

Good grief, how twatty. And stupid.

Thanks Janni at last someone talks sense.

sweetsomethings

If you want tipping for your job then go and get a job in an industry where tipping is standard. Like in a restaurant, for example.

Actually don't, because you sound as miserable as sin and would probably put people off their food.

Too many people out there prepared to chuck down a fiver having had an evening of service from someone and call it a tip, I’d call that an insult. A friend who runs an independent restaurant has started adding service to the bill because staff were getting a fiver left having served people all evening.

You realise that 'service charge' doesn't usually go to the staff? When I've worked for big chains, the service charge was divided up, annually and shared between all staff. So we usually saw about £1 a year.
Delivering a service is the absolute minimum. Delivering hospitality is above and beyond.

Birthday that is truly hilarious thanks for the laugh.

I never tip my hairdresser, because I pay a bomb every five weeks - but I always bring her wine/flowers at Christmas. Otherwise always tip in restaurants unless the service was terrible, round up for taxi drivers, and tip delivery people. As a student I really relied on tips on top of my crappy waitressing wages!

Not flinging insults, just telling you how it is.

Yeah, and I was telling how it is with you too.

Look, 99% of people tip in restaurants. You're the odd one out here, not me.

OK - why tip some minimum wage people but not others? They all earn the same. Why do some feel entitled to tip some but not others?

sweet, and I guess Janni how on earth can you conflate a service charge which is expected to be added to a voluntary and relatively privileged experience (dining out at a restaurant) and the provision of some kind of personal care for people (who is meant to pay for this luxury- the patient?)

It's apples and oranges and makes no sense to me.

sweetsomethings Does your job see people paying inflated prices, with very little of that being passed onto you as a minimum wage employee? If not, it’s not really the same thing.

Thing is, it’s not really the fault of the consumer and it shouldn’t be up to them to make sure that those employees are able to make at least a bit of a living. But unless we’re going to change our whole economic and political outlook, it’s going to be the case. A little bit of kindness and understanding would hardly kill you tightarses though.

Just as an aside not to you, a lot of waiting staff are working part time (or full time) to support their education.

I tip, but I don't like the concept of tipping. I want to pay the price that the meal or haircut is and not more. These things are expensive enough as they are, I and many people in this land can barely afford them. So having to tip people who are paid a wage to do a job, when I'm already paying ££££ for the meal or whatever it is does grate a little. Having said that I will tip good service.

If I'm having to attract the waiters attention constantly, then forget it. I'm not as bad as a friend who rather than leave nothing for bad service, would leave pennies. Now that's mean.

If you eat in a restaurant in the US and don’t tip, you’re actually costing the waiter/waitress money.

It’s just a different pricing structure to the UK, that doesn’t make it wrong or a scam, just different.

In most states, minimum wage for those in food service is approximately $3/hr as the pricing structure for diners assumes tips will be paid. For taxes, a rate of (I think- might have changed since last time I looked at it) 8% is taxed on the employee’s wage, based on total bill and assumed tip of 15%. So, if you spend $100, the government assumes the waiter received $15 tip and taxes him 8%. If you spend $100 and don’t tip, the waiter is still paying tax on the $15 you didn’t give him.

updates spreadsheet of tightwads vs people I'd have a pint with

@Seniorcitizen1
You sound awful. I just looked at some of your other comment to confirm /see if I was being unfair. But no I'm not. I echo what various other posters have said in reply to you. I think you might be more at home in the comments section of the daily Mail.

OK - why tip some minimum wage people but not others

Well waitressing isn't comparable to retail, that's for sure.

A waitress has got to put up with look after you for two hours or more, and interact with you far more than someone working on a till, who you might exchange five words with.

So why not tip my carer friend, surely the family should realise she is looking after their loved ones for hours a day and therefore she should get a hefty tip?
But she doesn't so why does a server.

So why not tip my carer friend, surely the family should realise she is looking after their loved ones for hours a day and therefore she should get a hefty tip?
But she doesn't so why does a server.

Because people chose to tip a server. They can also tip a carer if they please. By your logic, why doesn't your friend become a server then, if life is so rough for her as a carer?

The only people I know who are against tipping own a restaurant and no they do not pay a true living wage. Their justifications are nonsense and it is clear they resent the money going to the staff.

A waitress has got to put up with look after you for two hours or more, and interact with you far more than someone working on a till, who you might exchange five words with

A waitress spends two hours at your table with you?

There are many retail jobs that have to deal with the same customers three times a day just wanting company. They get no tip, neither does the cleaner or chef or pot wash. Tips are out dated from a time that serving staff weren't paid and only earned tips.

Trolling?

Because nobody forces you to go out to restaurant for a meal. It is a choice, and a privilege. If you're now seriously going to say that these relatives should be doing their own caring, and that it is a privilege, I will at this point amend the 'numpty' tab on aforementioned spreadsheet.

Too many people out there prepared to chuck down a fiver having had an evening of service from someone and call it a tip, I’d call that an insult. A friend who runs an independent restaurant has started adding service to the bill because staff were getting a fiver left having served people all evening.

Eh?!

Oh yes because leaving a job and going straight into another is so easy

What I'm saying is I don't get why we're expected to tip servers but not others like carers etc?

They both do a tough job, working hours on their feet and providing a service to people but only one gets a top up?

It's obviously up to everyone if they tip or not but I don't think it's fair to criticise people for not doing so.