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AIBU?

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To think people should think before they get on a plane

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 09:08

Yeah yeah I know some people are scared of flying, but right now I have no sympathy.

Yesterday DH was on a 7pm flight from London to Barcelona. We live in the outskirts of Barcelona.

Everyone got on the flight then one woman decided she didn't want to fly after all. She got off the plane. This means that everyones hand baggage has to be rechecked. Then just as they are about to go. Another woman decides she is scared and wants her and her family off the plane. The second woman had hold baggage so that had to be taken off, then all hand baggage checked again. Because of this the runway slot had been missed so they had to wait again.
The plane landed after midnight.

The last train for DH to get home leave Barcelona centre at 11.55. The flight was due to get in at 10.20, no problem. Because of these two he had to get a taxi to another part of Barcelona, then a night bus. He got home just after 2.30am.

He's knackered and can't work today.

These two woman should have thought before they got on the fucking plane.

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 09:34

husband needs to toughen up FFS My husband is far more sympathetic than I am.

get over it and stop being pathetic and think yourself lucky you don't suffer anxiety
I do actually, so well, bollocks to you you goady fucker.

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BarbaraofSevillle · 07/08/2018 09:35

AveA Maybe someone was taken ill after dropping off their baggage, or they forgot something and went home to get it?

MyBrexitUnicornDied · 07/08/2018 09:36

These things happen so get over it and stop being pathetic and think yourself lucky you don't suffer anxiety

Wow. Op isn’t allowed to moan - she’s being “pathetic”. She’s had a shit time and so has her husband, she’s allowed a little moan.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 07/08/2018 09:37

inconsiderate behaviour..
. How dare this women have the audacity to have a anxiety which clearly lead to her having a panic attack. (tongue to cheek obvs)
Anxiety is not something you can control.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 07/08/2018 09:38

Well, op not in so many words called a sick women pathetic. Why are her set of rules better.

MyBrexitUnicornDied · 07/08/2018 09:40

How dare this women have the audacity to have a anxiety which clearly lead to her having a panic attack

And op is also human, she’s shattered and is allowed to feel pissed off.

PatriciaHolm · 07/08/2018 09:41

I was taking about my plane - I got off, it took off!

Loonoon · 07/08/2018 09:41

I think your DH was very unlucky, I have never been on a plane where this has happened once, let alone twice —although I have probably jinxed myself now— . I don’t blame you for being annoyed.

sailorcherries · 07/08/2018 09:42

onlyjoined

I suffer from anxiety and would rather slam my nipples in a door than cause that much of a scene and issue for other people.

As for being pathetic the husband didn't get home until 2.30am, maybe not asleep until 3am. We don't know if he needed to wake up at 5am for work or 9am. We also don't know how long he had been awake for prior to getting home. We also don't know what his line of work entails but even driving while tired is dangerous so no, it's not being pathetic.

OP I agree with you. My OH pulled out our group holiday because of a fear of flying, in case he wanted off the plane. He's seeking treatment to enable a family holiday next year. You don't go on a flying holiday if you cannot fly.

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 09:44

DH knows what a panic attack looks like, a full on one, and he said she wasn't like that. She just had a bad case of nerves (the second woman).

The first woman didn't seem to care, no idea why she got off.

I didn't ever call a sick woman pathetic, don't try putting words in my mouth.

I'm a nervous flyer and I take a chill pill before I get on a flight.

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hungryhippo90 · 07/08/2018 09:47

Fucksake. Of course OP is allowed a moan.
Why don’t people pre empt and prepare if they are going to be in a high stress situation?

I say this as someone who does suffer anxiety, quite severe infact.

I’d avoided planes until last year, I was absolutely bricking it, I went to my Dr who upped my medication and I figured out how best to take them surrounding the flight I went on.
Two before getting on, one whilst sat down, I had a few drinks and practiced mindfulness. No it wasn’t easy. I was petrified, but it was my responsibility to not make a big deal out of it, put other people on edge or ruin their 8 hour flight.

Anxiety is not an excuse to ruin other people’s trips.

ShotsFired · 07/08/2018 09:49

He's knackered and can't work today.

The events do sound intensely annoying, but this is a bit OTT. Of course he can work(1).

You are in Spain and in the land of late nights and later starts (2.30 is just getting started!), but even if you were somewhere a little earlier to rise, one night of crap sleep shouldn't make him unable to function - especially given most people are sleeping rubbish at present

(1) Unless it's a drip feed of him being a brain surgeon or operating massive heavy machinery etc.

Tinywhale · 07/08/2018 09:51

I can’t believe some people on this thread seem to think that one person’s anxiety is an acceptable reason to inconvenience 400-500 other people to that extent.

Shocked.

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 09:55

No ShotsFired he not a surgeon, but he does need to concentrate, and he can't when he's that tired.
You are in Spain and in the land of late nights and later starts
Not everyone in Spain lives in the night, some of us with regular jobs and kids that are up early need sleep.

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kateandme · 07/08/2018 09:55

ur human.so we feel how we do.and a reaction to this will happen. but then you gotta sweep over it because this wasn't anyones fault really.just a succession of unfortunate occurrences.i bet you the ladies in question are feeling much worse than you lot are.
it must be awful to get to that point and terrifying.you can help anxiety if it hits like that.they wouldn't have chosen to do this.and im sure if controlled it they would have.

ShotsFired · 07/08/2018 09:58

So there is a bit of a drip, but ok, I accept he has a job that needs him to concentrate more than most other people.

But still. It's one night. It shouldn't rule him out of working entirely.

What did he do when your children were babies and sleep deprivation was the norm for days and weeks at a time?

IfYouDontImagineNothingHappens · 07/08/2018 10:01

It's very possible someone got a text or call to say something had happened at home. A friend left a plane when they got a call to say their parent had died. Plane was basically about to taxi but they became hysterical and had to leave. I think we can sympathise there.

LEMtheoriginal · 07/08/2018 10:02

Try puting yourself in their shoes. They have anxiety which has potentially just ruined their family holiday. Maybe they tried really hard but in the end just couldnt do it. They probably are so upset with themselves so disdain from other passengers is just going to amplify that.

Be grateful that anxiety doesnt interefere with your life. Would you say that someone who delayed a flight because they were taken ill was being inconsiderate? No you wouldn't because that would be ridiculous.

YABU and a bit selfish

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 10:03

ShotsFired No drip at all. TBH I'm not going to bother replying further to you because you are determined to make my husband somehow the bad guy. It's not rocket science, 2 women delayed a flight a lot, my husband is knackered and it was a long journey to get home. That's it. If you want to try and paint another picture then I can't help that, and can't be bothered to get involved.

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LEMtheoriginal · 07/08/2018 10:04

Oh snd not all panic attacks are the same you know!!!

MyBrexitUnicornDied · 07/08/2018 10:05

Be grateful that anxiety doesnt interefere with your life

Ops already said she does suffer from anxiety. She is allowed to feel pissed off

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 07/08/2018 10:05

I didn't put words in your mouth.
I said you called her pathetic not in so many words and I stand by what I said.

Firesuit · 07/08/2018 10:06

Why is it always a woman having a panic?

Sky's movie of the day yesterday was a romantic comedy, "The Female Brain", in which the main character was a female scientist trying to redo her experiments to eliminate what she saw as objectionable differences between male and female subjects whose brains she was studying. If the movie is to be believed, among the many brain sex differences is that women have a bigger capacity for feeling fear, and are more likely to be aware of dangers that men are oblivious to.

(These were claimed as differences relating to differences in brain physiology visible in scans. The only difference mentioned in the movie that wasn't inherent was, if I remember correctly, that women can suffer from anxiety as an adult as a consequence of their mother having been anxious when pregnant with them.)

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AndSpinAround · 07/08/2018 10:06

LEM Anxiety does interfere with my life actually. I'm selfish because I'm annoyed about what happened? Wow, just wow.

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