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What do you think happens when we die?

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Frosty6611 · 05/08/2018 12:28

Just had this discussion with my DP and mum and we all had a completely different answers.

I believe in reincarnation.

My DP is an atheist and believes nothing happens.

My mum believes in heaven/hell.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/08/2018 14:53

do you think everyone on earth is born knowing the truth but has it educated out of them by well-meaning parents?

I do believe this happens a lot, yes

For me, each child is born with the inherent knowledge gained in its previous lives, and whether or not they fulfil their potential and progress depends on many factors including their immediate family, their wider community including organised religions and especially their own free will

That free will might well explain why some are able to rise above the appalling circumstances they're tested with, though it's also true that a very advanced soul might actually elect to be born into such a situation, in order to learn the important lesson of humility

It's all a learning process, you see, and something we all have to go through in order to move forward to better things

serbska · 06/08/2018 14:59

Nothing

tomhazard · 06/08/2018 16:19

Personally I don't believe anything happens. You die and you no longer have any level of consciousness.
As such I aim to live my life as fully and interestingly as money and time will allow. I will enjoy my DC as much as as I can, feel lucky to have them and give them as much as possible in terms of a head start so they can live their short lives with fullness too.

foxyliz26 · 06/08/2018 17:34

I'd love to hear a bit more about your experiences foxyliz26, if you don't mind? (Obviously if you do, don't worry

Well been brought up a non believer , but have seen many people I have known and some I haven't
I wouldn't take money for it or talk about it in case folks thought I was crazy

but we bought our house, on the strength of me seeing and speaking to a little woman about 4ft 10 tall, called Mary , I kid you not

I told one old neighbour this story , she brought around a picture of a woman called Mary G who had lived in our house before I was born , it was her
a few friends who don't believe have also seen her walking up the stairs , or going into the bathroom which had once been her bedroom so I am told

I regularly see a woman in the local Asda dressed in 1980,s clothes , she looks so sad , and lonely, I know she took her own life, a pipe to her exhaust , well before we lived around here

I don't think she knows whats happening , have even spoken to her ,it isn't my imagination because my G/F has seen me talking to her, although she couldn't see or hear her, she could smell car exhaust gases around us inside the ASDA

Frosty6611 · 06/08/2018 17:44

Do those of you who think nothing happens when we die, so you think those who claim to be able to speak to the dead and charge money for readings are all liars? My best friend’s mum does this and she must be a very convincing liar if it’s all bullshit

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NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 17:49

Liars, deluded or mentally ill. Yes.

NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 17:50

Ones who charge are usually liars. They’re certainly parasites with no morals.

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 18:15

Yes, all liars or deluded. Their claims never stand up to scrutiny. I am usually open minded and tolerant of other people's beliefs but those people are charlatans. The James Randi organisation offered a million pounds to any medium or clairvoyant who proved genuine. Since the 1960s (I think) over a thousand have tried and failed.

Frosty6611 · 06/08/2018 18:17

My friend’s mum who does it for her job is utterly convinced that it’s all true. She’s either a barefaced liar or has deluded herself into thinking it’s real

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73kittycat73 · 06/08/2018 18:27

Thanks for that foxyliz26 . Smile

To those that don't believe there is anything - How do you cope? If I didn't think there was anything else afterward I think I'd go batshit! What's the point of slugging your guts out working for 50 odd years for nothing? Why go through the suffering humans do for nothing?
I can't get my head round going along with societies rules all for nothing?!

Kingkiller · 06/08/2018 18:33

I'm an atheist - when you're dead, that's it.

To those that don't believe there is anything - How do you cope? If I didn't think there was anything else afterward I think I'd go batshit!

Why? You didn't exist before you were born, so why is it weird to think you won't exist after you die? I don't consider it something that needs 'coping with' at all. The prospect of the process of dying is scary - potentially traumatic and painful. But the idea of actually being dead doesn't bother me in the slightest!

Janni01 · 06/08/2018 18:39

Yes I think people who can speak to the dead are liars looking to prey on vulnerable people.

I would rather do good stuff in life and try make a difference because I'm a nice person rather then thinking I must be good as I will come back or be judged by a God one day.

Lucisky · 06/08/2018 18:50

I believe death is the ultimate general anaesthetic - nothing. At least I hope so. As I get older the thought of an afterlife and having to to go on and do more is exhausting. I will be looking forward to a good long rest; for ever.

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 18:50

"What's the point of slugging your guts out working for 50 odd years for nothing?"

Well any animal on earth could say the same thing. We might have self awareness but we're not so much different to all of the other creatures, and our purpose is ultimately about the same imo.

So, with no higher purpose or agenda, we're here to enjoy our little lives and help other people to enjoy theirs and that's it imo.

lazyhazysummer · 06/08/2018 18:53

The depths of our emotions, the mystery of love, joy, sadness, our need to better ourselves, our compassion, our empathy, consciousness, our dreams, our wonder at a beautiful sunset, sunrise, .but always that subconscious feeling that something is missing, we never feel fully complete, we are searching for something but we don't know what,

Just looking into a baby's eyes, you can see the soul, the innocence, .... All those things and many many more is...God. God is all around us. I just cannot accept that evolution had any need to give us all that.

Please don't ridicule my comments, that is the way i see it.

NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 18:55

“Just look at the trees” 🙄

Janni01 · 06/08/2018 18:56

And I see it that science is amazing and has given us all this amazing stuff, because how the he'll can one man do all that?b

Vickymj · 06/08/2018 19:06

I was reading some of this thread last night and it really surprised me how many people don’t believe in any kind of afterlife or reincarnation. I kept thinking about it, hence me posting Smile

I’m not at all religious, but I do believe there is something after we die, maybe because that helps me cope with having lost loved ones. I can’t just believe that is it, lights out!

Makes me feel so sad to think that so many believe we just exist on this earth, then we’re just gone in the blink of an eye.

lazyhazysummer · 06/08/2018 19:28

Vickmj Never mind, just think how good it'll feel to be able to say to the non believers "I told you so", lol.

Vickymj · 06/08/2018 19:43

Ha ha yes Grin

NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 19:48

What always baffles me is how believers express surprise at non-believers not choosing to believe just because they like the idea of an afterlife.

Usually they say things like “Oh but you see I loved my dad/nan/budgie so much. I like to believe I’ll see them again”.

Guess what?! Atheists love their dead relatives too! It’s just that we don’t profess to believe something just because we like the idea of it.

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 19:49

And I see it that science is amazing and has given us all this amazing stuff, because how the he'll can one man do all that?b The stuff was here long before science and who's this man. Some people believe god is a male figure but many don't. It'd be more likely be a female if anything, not that I believe that either.

NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 19:50

If I needed the idea of an afterlife to help me cope with the thought of death I think I’d see somebody. I don’t mean that unkindly.

NotPerTickly · 06/08/2018 19:52

“Just looking into a baby's eyes, you can see the soul“

Really? How interesting! What exactly does a soul look like? 🤔

GetOrfMyBin · 06/08/2018 20:05

I don’t know what happens when we die. I’d like to think that we do get to meet up with our loved ones. My thinking has changed somewhat since my dad passed away last year. Before I still didn’t know, but lent towards nothing. Since he died I want there to be something. He took his own life and I have a lot I want to be able to say to him when I finally go.

A couple of days after he died DD2 (5 at the time) claimed to have seen my dad when she was at school break time She was out on the field playing and she was lying on the grass thinking of rolling down the hill. She said that my dad cake and told her not to roll down the hill because she would get grass in her hair and get all messy. She said he told her that he missed us and loved us. Then he said he had to go back to heaven and to be good. She described what he was wearing and it was exactly what he was wearing the day he died, which she wouldn’t have known and everything she said sounded exactly like my dad. Possibly a bit of wishful thinking, but I like to think that he did go visit her that day.

I love the ‘you want a physicist to speak at your funeral’ - it does bring some comfort.

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