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What do you think happens when we die?

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Frosty6611 · 05/08/2018 12:28

Just had this discussion with my DP and mum and we all had a completely different answers.

I believe in reincarnation.

My DP is an atheist and believes nothing happens.

My mum believes in heaven/hell.

OP posts:
centerparcs · 06/08/2018 13:49

I sometimes wonder if we are no more living in a Petri dish, than say ants living under a pavement or rats living in a science lab. Each of those as examples, won’t have a clue what more intelligent species, such as us, live like or are capable of. What if we are, like the rats,just an experiment created by a greater species that our intelligence is not capable of understanding?
Imagine rats experiencing other rats dying in a lab test etc and not understanding why these things happen. Could it be like that for us? Things happening around us for a reason, that something else is causing it.
Maybe we are only pawns in a game.
We are only the most intelligent species because we THINK we are, and that is as far as our capabilities in understanding go? I don’t refer to god but always wonder about the possibility of a much more intelligent species (?) that’s much larger etc. Thinking about the vast space between planets and not knowing what is beyond the universe make me wonder.
We don’t know everything.

Makes for a scary thought, when you really consider it.

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 13:52

"Or the ultimate truth"

But someone introduced them to it in the first place.

And there are so many ultimate truths, we're teeming with them, they can't all be right.

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 13:54

"Maybe we are only pawns in a game."

But who made the beings who made the game?

Earthmover · 06/08/2018 13:57

Centerparcs. The real bummer about all that is you've served your time on this earth. Then you die. And never get to find out.
Just like the crustations at the bottom of the sea.

centerparcs · 06/08/2018 13:59

rainy that’s my point , nobody knows! But something surely. Can we all have just popped up from nowhere? Is that why god becomes the simple and easiest explanation for the “creator” of these pawns in the game?

Janni01 · 06/08/2018 13:59

I think you die and that's it.

But quite simply if people want to comfort themselves in believing that there's a heaven or they will come back or that there's a God then they can do so.

But I comfort myself that once I die all my suffering will be over and I don't want to go through another life again and have to suffer all over again.

centerparcs · 06/08/2018 14:00

earth I agree. We just think these thoughts from time to time and that’s as far as it can go. Then we jus let go about our life’s again with the clock ticking

Janni01 · 06/08/2018 14:02

I like the discussion that we think were the most intelligent species but surely out there somewhere there has to be something of at least comparable intelligence and maybe even more intelligence.

Just imagine right now something could be watching us with satellites and we don't even know it....

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:06

But someone introduced them to it in the first place. Or maybe it's innate.

BarrackerBarmer · 06/08/2018 14:09

I used to believe in heaven. Now I don't.
To exist, and then cease to exist, is terrifying, and the thought or reality of losing loved ones is almost unbearable. But this is life and death.
The only consolation is that we each leave our imprint upon the world, through our acts, and held in trust by those who knew us.
I wish I was better at remembering this, and renewing my commitment to a life well lived.
Off to do something more worthwhile, thanks for the reminder, OP

centerparcs · 06/08/2018 14:09

janni or the universe is only huge to us because in comparison to our size, it’s huge/ the same way we would look ginormous to an ant, is there something else out there that is equally ginormous to us, and to then, the universe is only a small thing as they’ve are much bigger....

centerparcs · 06/08/2018 14:10

and to them, the universe is only a small thing as they are much bigger

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:12

If we hadn't been indoctrinated, the religious or atheist alike that god [the old man with the beard type figure) wasn't like this and more a life force or entity would we be so against the idea I wonder?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/08/2018 14:13

Forgive me dragging this in, but is that tuneful ditty going through anyone else's mind?

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!

Sorry Blush Grin

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:17

Reminded me of Horton Hears Who!

lepotato · 06/08/2018 14:18

There's the option of becoming a tree now so I'm going to do that

Readyforapummelling · 06/08/2018 14:20

The two films mentioned on this thread are two films I have watched this week!

Where Dreams May Come (brilliant book btw)

Horton Hears A Who

Coincidence? Or a sign my life is on the right track? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 14:22

"Or maybe it's innate."

I don't think so due to the overwhelming correlation between the faith of the child and the faith of the parent.

If belief in the 'only truth' was innate there'd be loads of kids emphatically believing in reincarnation (or whatever) despite their Jewish parents' best efforts.

Or do you think everyone on earth is born knowing the truth but has it educated out of them by well-meaning parents?

But didn't the parents also once know the one truth, why did they choose to ignore it?

My head hurts.

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:22

Spooky Smile

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:25

Or do you think everyone on earth is born knowing the truth but has it educated out of them by well-meaning parents? Yes.

My head hurts Me too Grin

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:26

*Mainly the amnesia though.

KingfordRun · 06/08/2018 14:32

In the not too distant future you’ll be able to upload your consciousness & live out the ‘after life’ as an avatar. The more experiences, the more expensive the ‘package’.

RainySeptember · 06/08/2018 14:43

Like in Ready Player One?

Readyforapummelling · 06/08/2018 14:51

Ooo like that episode in Black Mirror?
San Junipero I think it was called. Lovely episode.

Vitalogy · 06/08/2018 14:53

I've not seen Ready Player One but just watched the trailer. Looks like the future if the new virtual reality games take over. I think they'll be a split between the spiritual and the virtual people. Confused