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I've just been a complete twat...

480 replies

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 03/08/2018 13:20

I think, anyway! Not sure now! So I'll put it to the MN jury...and I'll happily apologize, because I have the ability to own my shit.

Chatting to a friend about going out tonight (after the week I've had, I bloody deserve it!)

She started on a massive stretch about me claiming PIP to "piss it up the wall", I obviously need the disposible income, etc, etc. It was really bitchy!

She's made catty comments in the past, but tbh I thought that was down to me- I have a weird sense of humor, and take the piss out of myself all the time. But never like this.

She said that, if I was independant enough to go out alone (I'll be meeting a friend, but eill be making my own way) I shouldn't be claiming Personal INDEPENDANCE Payment, and that "I'm what's wrong with the government atm!

I sent her a REALLY sarky text in reply, but it's made me doubt myself!

I need to calm down...

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JamPasty · 03/08/2018 18:34

You sound awesome OP!

Knittedfairies · 03/08/2018 19:05

There were 3 bottles of Prosecco in our local food bank donation box in January...

noeffingidea · 04/08/2018 01:21

Food bank - I would suggest tinned fruit (I missed fruit the most when I was skint) , instant drinking chocolate is a nice treat. I usually put a pack of bourbon biscuits in, they're nice and chocolatey and most people like them.
Jux toiletries are fine.
I often wonder about soap powder - it's never on the list but it's something I've struggled to buy in the past. Even a small packet of surf from poundland costs a pound.

Kpo58 · 04/08/2018 07:35

I would have been tempted to tell your exfriend that the PIP was paying the little person who lives in your phone who reads stuff out for you.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/08/2018 07:57

Don't comfort Jux. She only got DLA because she was naughty. Everyone knows disability is God's judgement on you for thinking Bad Thoughts. That's why people with disabilities should live in poverty. Suffering is good for the soul, don't ya know. Conversely, if you are healthy and wealthy, you are by definition also virtuous.

That Jesus fellow going around healing disabilities whilst spouting a lot of nonsense about rich camels and needles' eyes, he came to a bad end didn't he? Let that be a lesson to all.

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 09:24

Definitely sanpro.

Also I'm sure toiletries are allowed.

Sorry about the short reply...hungover.

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ImAIdoot · 04/08/2018 10:26

Fuck people like this. Seriously, nobody needs people in their life who feel entitled to a say in whether they should have a life or not. We all pay into the system so that disabled people can live as normal a life as possible, not so they can be chained to a radiator and live on pot noodle. That is there if we need it ourselves as I know all too well.

I struggled for years with an invisible disability which thank God is now under control in most ways, meaning my career is on track, I can work just like anyone else does etc. but it takes effort and it took time/different treatments to get to the point where things are relatively managed.

Two people in my life I couldn't avoid (BiL and OH's best friend) saw fit to act like I was a burden on the state and they were entitled to constantly treat me like shit. These people were not privy to the details of my condition and never fucking will be, the shitheads but apparently some paperwork of mine had been seen while we were moving house that showed I was getting DLA and it had been gossiped about.

I found out about this in two ways. Firstly I fought through horrible debilitating symptoms one day to accompany OH to best friend's mum's house for lunch. I was struggling a bit. The conversation got to plans for the future. When asked I said that I hoped to advance my career and study X at uni, whereupon this woman (the mum, who I didn't know, in a group of people I also mostly didn't know) raised an eyebrow at me and said "nah I don't think so, you'd have to work for it" which was apparently hilarious. This is how I discovered that it was being circulated I was claiming despite there being "nothing wrong with me" in the expert opinion of some arsehole who considered themselves an honorary doctor.

Then I had BiL who apparently drew conclusions based on the same "bombshell" information, who had passive aggressive digs literally every time we were in each other's presence for several years, and made me feel like shit at a time when I was going through the process of rebuilding my life. This despite not knowing what my problem is AND DOES NOT TO THIS DAY because fuck him.

Cut to now, some 15 years later and the right approaches have been found to manage (for now) my challenges, and for some years I have through force of will been back on the career path I was on before thjngs got bad (and done that university course as it happens). Things are still a struggle but I lead a pretty much normal life. I forgave OH's friend and family for what I saw as, sorry if I sound awful, but bluntly ignorance and stupidity rather than malice - as we got closer there were profuse apologies and you can't ask much more than saying sorry for mistakes. However, following a career change arsehole BiL is now a carer for people with disabilities, some of those people have the same condition as me which I find hilarious. He has also had a political "awakening" and is now right on as fuck in public, while being about the same person in reality (although these days I am both working full time and have a zero tolerance policy towards bullying so he picks other targets). The other day I had to read a long diatribe on facebook about how people can have invisible disabilities "don't you realise" and people who judge them as works by etc are the scum of the earth (compared to him of course, the most stand up guy that ever lived), when will the ignorance end, and so o n.

I so nearly revealed my diagnosis to him on that post and said "where is my apology then you cunt? Apparently you have behaved like the scum of the earth to me - your own words". I am confident he would look as bad as he is if I did this.

I didn't, though, because I actually feel sorry for him. There is no disability as debilitating as being a total unmitigated wanker, at least I can get treatment to manage my condition, his not so much. Also, on principle I won't beg someone like that for apologies, approval or anything else. Also also on principle I won't be a party to disabled people having to answer for themselves to every pleb who thinks they are the world's pip assessor. Fuck those people.

I'm really sorry for the long post, apparently I needed the catharsis and have done it all over your topic! Anyway, if he wasn't BiL I would have cut him out of life long ago, and I think you should do the same - ain't nobody got time for that shit, the most you will get from such people is that they conceal their ridiculous opinion when challenged. That's not a friend.

ImAIdoot · 04/08/2018 10:29

Also sorry for the caps, I know screen readers are bum heads with caps. I might need an accessibility asbo ;)

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 10:44

Omg! I would not have been able torestrain myself! You're a bigger person than I would be!

And do I really have to repeat the words "stop apologizing" again? If the rant did you good, knock yourself out! And if this thread becomes full of "tsking the piss out of our disabillities, and the cuntz who accuse us of faking them"...then...I'll start another! With exactly that title!!

Ps, all disabillities are invisible to me...

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CazY777 · 04/08/2018 11:39

You just made me laugh out loud OP, on a stressful day, thank you! My DH likes to joke that I should wipe his bum as well as our daughters, but the unfunny thing is that I might have to start doing it soon..!

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 11:44

caz at least he call call you an asswipe, and mean it in the literal sense! So an advantage for him there straight away!

Get him to join this thread- we're all asswipes here! 😂

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AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 11:49

DH made a joke about Carrie when he was helping me shower after having DS. I laughed so much I started a coughing fit, buggared my wound, set off an asthma attack, and had to be put on a nebulizer! He then spent the next few hours on the verge of tears because he felt so guilty. Why ffs??? It was fucking hilarious! (Except for the nearly dying bit...I guess that was a BIT unfunny).

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CazY777 · 04/08/2018 11:50

Ha, made me laugh again. I shall put down on my CV that I am an official asswipe (as the gov pay me such a huge amount to do it)!

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 11:51

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

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SargeantAngua · 04/08/2018 11:53

Ps, all disabillities are invisible to me...

That made me properly snort! I am one of those with an invisible disease (invisible apart from the mobility scooter, speed I walk, fact I can't walk and talk at the same time due to brain overload, fact I am invisible until mid afternoon due to being in bed etc...). To be honest I sometimes feel guilty about my life - when I'm not feeling angry about the things I can't do or jealous of friends going out and doing the things I used to love to do or feeling particularly ill my life could be called easy. I've got used to feeling crap all the time, so essentially I sleep, listen to audio books, knit, sew and play Pokemon go on my scooter. Or just curl up on the sofa dozing if I can't do anything else. And most of the time I'm happy. Which feels wrong. This morning I'm lying in bed having had a rough night, full of painkillers for aches and headache, but having a nice cup of tea and smiling at the stuff on this thread.

Not sure any of that makes sense - I guess it's the ingrained thing that I'm disabled and cant work therefore should spend every minute suffering. I hope its ok to have posted that, thought people on this thread might understand.

sirmione16 · 04/08/2018 11:54

Gosh op if this is a friend I'd hate to meet your enemies

YeTalkShiteHen · 04/08/2018 11:54

Ps, all disabillities are invisible to me...

You’re fucking awesome! Grin

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 12:01

NEVER feel guilty about feeling happy!

I hope that someone eho has just bern diagnosed with a debilitating condition reads your post up there, and goes away thinking "ok, so there WILL be good days!"

In fact, I think you should consider changing your name to "happy hopalong"! 😁

You rock!

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YeTalkShiteHen · 04/08/2018 12:06

Not sure any of that makes sense - I guess it's the ingrained thing that I'm disabled and cant work therefore should spend every minute suffering. I hope its ok to have posted that, thought people on this thread might understand

I hate that the propaganda has worked, you should never feel guilty for being happy! In fact quite the opposite, I love that you are happy most of the time Smile

In some ways I think I’m quite lucky, my autistic tendencies mean that I can quite often just chuck it in the fuck it bucket and not give a shit (or do a fairly good impression of not giving a shit).

Being happy is wonderful, I’m all for it!

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 04/08/2018 12:07

Re: the food banks.

Sorry about shamelessly bumping my other thread, but if anyone can inspire me, that would be mintage!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3326370-Allotment-inspire-me-please

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SargeantAngua · 04/08/2018 14:29

Thank you, both of you Smile. Being happy is nice! A low dose of antidepressants definitely plays a part but meh that's what they're meant to do!

dysongirl · 04/08/2018 17:39

I have an invisible illness
It drives me mad when ppl say oh you look so well
I too have so called friends like yours!!
Just be happy with what you can do for ypurself and your family and fk the begrudgers Smile

Bekstar · 04/08/2018 17:40

She clearly doesn't know what PIP, its not because you aren't independant, it's to keep you independant and using it for social reasons is as good a reason as any to maintain your independance. She's the t**t not you

Mehaveit · 04/08/2018 17:50

@ladycarlotta

*yes, Personal INDEPENDENCE Payment. As in, it's there to help you have the life you want to have, and YOU choose how you spend it.

What a horrible woman.*

^^ This this absolutely this.

YeTalkShiteHen · 04/08/2018 17:52

I’m on a low dose too, they upped it but I was tuned to the moon and couldn’t get up in the mornings! But a low dose does the job most days Smile

Being happy definitely is nice! Grin I’m on my way home from the football and we won so I’m definitely happy today Grin