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To believe that formula companies have PR agents working the BF/FF threads on here?

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CocoDeMoll · 02/08/2018 20:53

They are a multi million pound set of companies that are invested in keeping Britain’s low breastfeeding rates down and keeping their profit margins up.

Any positives about breastfeeding seem to be shot down in flames on here.

So much pro formula and anti breastfeeding rhetoric.

They can easily afford to and have the best at the jobs be it lawyers, pr teams or spin doctors on their sides and they’re not exactly renounced for their ethics are they (nestle?!?!).

Or am I just getting a bit tied up in conspiracy therorys? Grin

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flamingofridays · 05/08/2018 19:30

My child also had the best I could give him. He is 2 years old and fine. I hope you have continued to give your child only the best and only feed him organic food which is either comes from an animal or grows from the ground. (Yeah I thought not)

Pengggwn · 05/08/2018 19:31

But it's okay: redteapot is showing herself up for who she really is.

Pengggwn · 05/08/2018 19:33

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Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:35

Flamingo - it was a positive - because I put my child first. She had formula when I couldn’t feed at first and then worked at it - really worked at it so it could work for us both. I’m so proud of myself for putting in this work and making it a successful bf relationship. I have no guilt, no regrets - I did my absolutely best. My mental health was bad because of some other baby deaths in the family - bf didn’t help at first as I was tired and anxious, but then it did because when I cracked it I got sleep and was amazingly bonded and in tune with my child. I loved feeding her and it enabled me to heal those baby deaths. I would have had pnd for sure if I had given up when the going got tough.
I went into hospital with f for my second child - but all the work I had done with my first made feeding the second easy and she was ebf.
According to you I’m not allowed to be proud of my/our story.
I’m meant to nod and say ff is an equal source of nutrition.
I don’t care if you ff- your baby your choice but bog off telling someone what they can and can’t say about it. I don’t see you telling a ff off for saying it’s easy? So Ff’s can say it but bf’s can’t?!

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:36

And actually yes flamingo - my kids have very healthy diets still. I think it’s really important.

flamingofridays · 05/08/2018 19:36

it was a positive - because I put my child first ah right and I suppose that means everyone who ff didnt put their child first?

PandaPieForTea · 05/08/2018 19:39

@Redteapot67 can’t you see the difference between saying “it is easy” and “I found it easy”?

Jackieyoulooknice · 05/08/2018 19:39

@Redteapot67 you would have been bonded and in tune regardless of bf. I wonder how studies measure bullshit n claims like that. Unless you had ff a child then bf you couldn't really know the difference.

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:39

Well yes flamingo - breastmilk is the optimal source of nutrition for a baby - anyone who actively chooses a substandard choice isn’t choosing the best for the child. I’m not talking about people who couldn’t bf or went on formula as a balance that overall it was best for mum and baby - I’m talking about people who say ‘it’s just the same, it’s easier for me, I’ll ff from birth’.

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:41

Panda - everyone who ebf at 9 months finds it easy! It really isn’t just me.

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:42

So many people on here say how easy ff is - why aren’t you telling them they aren’t allowed to say this?

Pengggwn · 05/08/2018 19:42

everyone who ebf at 9 months finds it easy! It really isn’t just me.

Jesus.

Jackieyoulooknice · 05/08/2018 19:45

Redteapot omg just read this quote

Peng - exclusively?! Anyone can stick their baby on a nipple for a bit then ‘top up’ all day with formula.

Anyone can? Really? Anyway I breastfed twins at 9 months old and I found it a massive pain in my arse hole.

But, I notice you dodged the organic healthy diet bit and just said "yes they have good diets", well I actually made the effort to ensure mine only have an organic vegetarian diet.... Surely that's something to be so much prouder of, my effort extends to years while they still live at home with me... Your efforts ended after a year? 2? Wow. Must be so proud.

I've actually ff and bf and I think I have a bit more experience with both than you. Nasty woman.

flamingofridays · 05/08/2018 19:46

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Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:49

I’m not nasty at all - I’m just standing up for what I believe in

I don’t believe a vegetarian diet is the best for kids - hence why I don’t do it (I’m veggie myself tho). All meat and fish I give them is sustainably reared and mostly organic. They only drink water and milk (no juices or squash), they have healthy treats in moderation (as a healthy diet should) and easily eat 5 fruit and veg a day.

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zsazsajuju · 05/08/2018 19:50

I would have to say that the studies show it doesn’t make any difference if you give them formula or breastfeed. Sibling studies comparing like with like show that it makes no difference. The only regret I have is that I let the pressure to breastfeed and the inability to do so upset me.

Formula was the optimum food for my dcs. Particularly once you take into account the impact breastfeeding had on me and the family. My dcs are healthy, smart and strong.

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:50

Flamingo - but I’m not being an arsehole - I’m just saying the truth and my opinion. You are entitled to yours and me mine. Both equally valid. I’m not calling you offensive names- you should be ashamed of yourself. In no circumstances is that acceptable.

Jackieyoulooknice · 05/08/2018 19:51

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Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:53

Zsa - which studies are that? I just don’t believe that’s true.
There are some studies showing ‘marginal’ benefits but none showing absolutely no difference - happy to be proven wrong - please post links as I’d be interested to read

Jackieyoulooknice · 05/08/2018 19:54

Also - we all know the research is skewed becsuse middle class people are more likely to bf and we all know the health implications that come with being working class. And weirdly im a health care professional with a research masters so I think my opinion is rather valid!

flamingofridays · 05/08/2018 19:55

I'm not at all ashamed of myself.

I may be making a shit choice by ff my child (in your opinion) but at least my son will grow up to accept people make different choices.

Your posts were massive offensive and you should be ashamed.

Redteapot67 · 05/08/2018 19:55

Jackie - yes meat - cancer and climate change
Everyone should eat in moderation - if at all.
Are you the type of person who calls people offensive names on the internet? You also should be ashamed of yourself for being such a bully. Can you not have an open and honest debate without resorting to name calling?

flamingofridays · 05/08/2018 19:55

And also you're not saying it's your opinion though - you're telling us things are "facts" based on 0 evidence except your own experience.

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