Is all this really happening?

[rosylea]

Sorry can't do links, but is all this real? YouTube "cps corruption US" and "Nancy Schaefer's Senatorial report The Corrupt Business of Child Protection Services" and "Denise Robertson UK social services".and "Wanted by The State". And there's more. Can't all be false, can it? Would appreciate views please.

hungryhippo thank-you for sharing and the sound advice, you've made me feel much better. Wish you and your dd luck and good health.

OP do you have anxiety normally? I'm not being rude. I've also got lost down YouTube rabbit holes often but I do have OCD and a fairly obsessive personality too so am very prone to inducing and feeding anxiety in myself by "researching" with YouTube and dr Google.

I can 100% promise you that just because your daughter sometimes suffers depression, her child will not be removed. If she's starting a family I assume she will have support from yourself or a partner. Family members are where they would place children if it was purely down to a mum with depression who wasn't coping. There are also mum and baby units if she had post natal depression or psychosis. The storyline in EE a while back with Stacey and the psychosis was well researched (im sure some are not but that one I know was and the actress herself took it very seriously) and is realistic that Stacey now has her children too.

The people who claim their kids are unfairly removed.... usually this is bollocks. It's also very sad and difficult for people to cope with so of course they would claim it's unfair. For example a woman who refuses or can't leave a violent relationship - she may have her kids removed, it's tragic but she can't protect her kids therefore they get removed. Does that make sense why someone like that might have to cope with it by blaming social services rather than themselves?

Honestly, I don't think you have anything to worry about re your DD. I do think perhaps you should have a chat with your GP if you find yourself continuing to worry. You've been accused of being dense, personally I think you're suffering anxiety and feeding it, and lacking the ability to do critical thinking due to the state of anxiety you're in, My ability for any critical reasoning lowers the more anxious I get

But honestly on YouTube... you can find proof of anything at all. It's not though it's someone creating a video with an agenda.

Denise Robertson was an ignorant windbag who advocated children staying with unfit parents.

you can hear the mother saying there should have been a social worker. Also if the parents are so dangerous, why aren't they being arrested or removed instead of the boy? In fact they are leaving other children at home, so the parents are not dangerous

I haven't seen this video, it's highly likely to be nonsense, but even if that were a real video that is not what happens and that is not what social workers do

I agree with Holdmecloser.
This is bollocks.

Listen to this from start to finish. It will give you a really good insight into what really happens.

The Adoption

That's BBC though, jimmy saville concealers.

Do people actually still believe anything BBC say?

And posters say I'm stupid for believing YouTube videos? Although I haven't actually said I believe the child removal one, I'm questioning if it really happened?

Questioning on MN =stupidity

triggeredandhated thanks but no, I don't suffer with anxiety. it's not though it's someone creating a video with an agenda But isn't the agenda to show people what happened? Maybe mainstream media couldn't or wouldn't report on it?

skarossink, when/where did Denise Robertson advocate children staying with unfit parents?

Is child with dad in a living room? No, he's in the bedroom. Standing on the top bunk, pressing himself against the wall in the corner. Six police in the (small) bedroom and two in the doorway. Was finally pulled off the bed and down the stairs, struggling and crying. Dad tried to calm him, telling him it would be ok. The whole thing is horrific, still can't believe (yet hope) it's not real.

I have seen children forcibly removed by the police when they didn't want to be. But I know the full story and thank god the police did, as traumatic and terrifying as the removal was... they may not have lived if they weren't. It probably saved their lives.

OP, haven't you read the cases were Parents have fought to get their children back, or fought for contact and murdered them?

Having to be pulled away from your child, shows nothing.

DR, talks about children being removed from Parents "who aren't on drugs/drink", as though abuse/neglect doesn't matter.

It's easy to hear a Parents story and feel for them. But the SW's have an insight into what life was like in that house, day in and day out, for that child.

The training for SW was trained many years ago, so the child was put in the center of all planning and their needs/wants/wishes were paramount.

Go on the Stately Homes Forum and look at threads on here. There is a lot of children being permanently damaged by these outward seeming good parents.

Also the police have the power to remove children for their safety.

Social workers do not.

Social workers have to apply to a judge who decides. The police can remove in an emergency while this happens.

Also children attach, even to an abusive Parent. That doesn't mean that the Parent is any less likely to kill, or disable them.

The child's life becomes the norm. Abused children are often isolated, so no-one knows what's going on and the child doesn't know that it's wrong.

SW's weight up the emotional damage that would happen vs the damage done by Parents. That's why some children are left in the homes that they are in.

There are websites out there that help evaluate how bias/credible news pages are

mediabiasfactcheck.com

My ex husband and his wife had their two boys taken into care because she has depression and because one of the boys had unexplained bruising, it took four months for them to get them back. But there were no concerns about the 7 older siblings who were allowed contact as usual.

Right, I've just watched the police removing the child video. The police state several times that they've been to court and it was the court who decided that that child be removed. Are we suggesting that the full legal system is involved in this?

At the end of the video it looks like one or more of he adults present becomes aggressive, this could be the reason for the police presence. We have no knowledge of the history, if they have previously threatened violence towards the police/themselves.

The mother (I'm assuming) makes no effort to comfort the child or reassure them, she just stands there filming.

The police appear to be calm and trying to ease the situation.

@rosylea some nasty holier than thou shits on here would have you believe only the Guardian and mn is a reliable source. You're right to trawl for news online and not just get it from the msm - keep doing it.

And as for the sneering at op about Brexit - says more about your nasty agenda than op's genuine questioning.
Well done for keeping dignified op.

Does this help for posters unable to find it?

Thanks slashlover, just managed to do it myself!

Guys, even if the child does need to be removed, surely there's a better way than this? This CANNOT be "in the best interests of the child", no matter what the circumstances?

Thanks Sugarandvinegar. I'd ignored the Brexit thing