to wonder when UK English got so Americanised?

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I've read 2 threads this morning where people have gone to the 'store'. Then there's the 'gotten' and 'mom' thing. I feel like a spluttering Basil Fawlty saying this, but when did English in the UK lose its identity so much? Was Friends the start of the rot or was it earlier?

Languages do change, but it’s sad when it’s just derivative and adds nothing new or exciting. I have to cringe when yobs are talking about feds, as if they have an FBI here or something

Having lived in England for the past 10 years I can’t honestly say that British English is any better than American English. Half the English seem to think it’s okay to say/write, “I’m fed up OF” which I had never heard until I moved here.

For example "soda" instead of "fizzy drink".

And interestingly not everyone in the US says soda. It's regional. In some parts of the country, it's "pop" and in others it's soft drink. And where I grew up in Georgia, it's all Coke.

This gets on my nerves so much I really don't know where to start.

Having lived in England for the past 10 years I can't honestly say that British English is any better than American English

It's called English for a reason - it wasn't invented in America.

It's called English for a reason - it wasn't invented in America.

So? It owes huge amounts to the Saxons and Normans, not to mention Latin and the Romance languages. American usage has diversified it in many ways. Why does it matter that it's called English?

Everyone I know writes mom, it's a Black Country/Birmingham thing. I agree re the rest

My parents ran the Post Office Stores in our village back in the 70s.

During ww2 when The Yanks joined the allies, after pearl Harbour.
We've been about 6 months behind them ever since.
It's not a new thing.
Maybe been worse since we have imported American programmes.
Recently I've noticed we don't have an Army or Armed services, but Military.

So sorry about all of this rot we've been planting. I'll bring it up at the next meeting and see if I can put a stop to it.

I just noticed someone commented on another thread..'Anyways' and 'assholes'. GRRRR

@Cyclingpast Many young kids don't watch any TV and don't listen to any radio either. YouTube means that they learn how people from other countries talk. People from the US also notice our sayings. For example I've seen more than one American ask what a cheeky Nandos and not really getting the cheeky part.

I think older kids end up moving to more "street" YouTubers. I prefer Americanisms to children from naice areas talking like they are from "the streets".

Recently I've noticed we don't have an Army or Armed services, but Military.

We say Army (if that's the service we are referring to) and Armed Services in the US as well as Military. I thought that in the UK the common term is Armed Forces or just Forces.

It's called English for a reason - it wasn't invented in America.

Rule Britannia!

whispers The Empire wasn’t all that great you know. Sorry. But it did leave a lot of countries at least part-Anglophone. After the British invaded a country, nicked all the good stuff and killed loads of people, the moral high ground on ‘how the language should develop’ might just have been lost....

I cannot believe that after having read six pages, no one has yet mentioned the fact that Americans say, “I could care less.” Instead of, “I couldn’t care less.”
That’s the most annoying of all because it makes no sense.

GTA is the one that the kids copy, from Y6 upwards where I live.
They start asking for it or playing with an older siblings.

Seneca

Yes, that's what it should be and has been for since I can remember and I'm an old bird
BBC nes Reports are referring to any armed service as Military. Have a look when there's a story that involves Armed Services

Translator. It boils my piss that British English is lumped together with American English like they are the same. I am constantly justfying to foreign speakers why I have written programme (program), head offices (head quarters), medicine (drugs), mouth ulcers (canker sores), etc etc etc. It's a different language, it really really is!!!

My pet hates are Santa Claus (it’s Father Christmas)

Uho Santa has been used in Scotland for many years. It’s not an American import.

These threads (which appears regularly) always leave me a bit sad and disappointed.

MNers being a bit snobby about dreadful Americanisms while being patently ignorant of linguistic differences in their own country.

No doubt all the Scots and Irish MNers will have to grind their teeth through the embarrassingly tedious “I hate Halloween it’s an American import” threads again this October.

It's always been Santa Claus in Australia.

So maybe those saying "Father Christmas" are wrong...

Santa Claus might not be used in England, but it is used elsewhere in the UK. I never hear "Father Christmas" in Scotland.

And nor do I hear fizzy drink/ pop; it's juice where I am!

I have been reading Enid Blyton with ds2 and the famous five regularly call each other an "ass ". This would be in the 1940s/50s.

I have been reading Enid Blyton with ds2 and the famous five regularly call each other an "ass ". This would be in the 1940s/50s.

But in that case they are referring to the animal and comparing each other to a donkey and not to their backside. Not the same use of ass. I do find ass really annoying. It's arse here! Arseholes, not assholes.

It's arse here! Arseholes, not assholes.

Etymologically, they are the same word, just pronounced and spelled slightly differently.