to wonder when UK English got so Americanised?

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I've read 2 threads this morning where people have gone to the 'store'. Then there's the 'gotten' and 'mom' thing. I feel like a spluttering Basil Fawlty saying this, but when did English in the UK lose its identity so much? Was Friends the start of the rot or was it earlier?

When I was a kid, 'Hi,' was considered an Americanism.

I see no one here objecting to that now, which is interesting (to me!)

It started 16th May, 1981. About 9.43 a.m.. A very sad day indeed.

15th May, 1981, I miss you.

"Can I get.....?"

No, I'll get it for you.

Arggghhhhh!

I get ridiculously irritated by the incorrect use of grammar

"How are you?"

"I'm good thanks"

"No, you are WELL! Good is an adjective"

Grrrr. Shuffles off to read The Times.

Indeed margaritasbythesea, and who could forget that hey is for horses (Stanley)?

All very louche. I fear soon they'll be French words morphing their way in. Maybe even Irish words. The language will then be in smithereens I tell you!!!

*There'll be. Not blooming they'll be.

Please note the downfall of grammar has commenced: 08/01/2018 @ 08:53...

I've read 2 threads this morning where people have gone to the 'store'. Then there's the 'gotten' and 'mom' thing

I have never heard anybody say "gone to the store"

"gotten" just seems plain wrong to me but I have never heard any one say it

I agree "mom" is usually associated with American English but as PP have posted it is also common in Birmingham

Quite often people don't change the default dictionary in Microsoft Office and in various apps so they don't realise that they are actually spelling things wrong (for English English)

'American' English is actually older than the modern English used today in many ways. Research it, rather than just assuming. English is a mongrel language - it can't degrade itself!

'Mom' I have seen discussed and explained in many other threads. But when did 'store' become common currency?

Virgin Megastore?

Superstore?

Department store?

Hallowe'en had it's roots is celtic harvest festivals so no, not American. Just not English. 🙄

"I'm good" is one common misconception of incorrect grammar.

For example:

www.write.com/writing-guides/general-writing/word-choice/im-good-versus-im-well/

I agree with you OP. I had an argument with the DC yesterday who insist that their marsh MELLOW is tte correct pronunciation. Deuces je mad

According to many linguists american is more true to old english then the english in use now in the uk. Its evolved less over the years so if anything its us that have have changed and a lot of rhe americanisms people complain about tend to be old english.

I think with the rise of the internet. It's meant a lot more of what we read and watch is in American English. So many of those YouTubers.

I get irritated when my DC talks about his "pinky." Yurgh! It's a Little Finger FFS! Pinky sounds creepy.

I watched Made in Dagenham and one of the characters said goodbye to her DH with "have a nice day." Let me tell you NO ONE in the UK in the Seventies said "have a nice day." It was seen as a ridiculous Americanism right into the eighties. Now we all say it all the time of course. I don't know why we all thought it so ludicrous, though, it's broadly the dame as "good day to you," is it not? But say that in Dagenham in the 70s and you would have been met with derisive laughter and accused of "trying to be American or something."

Fall is the original word for autumn from old English. English English has evolved and we now use autumn but American English uses the original.

OP do you object to words adopted from other languages too?

People moan about train station being US usage rather than railway station but I used train station when I was a child.

I guess the "excited for" when people mean "excited about" is an Americanisation but I'm not sure.

I don't like "can I get" either - "could I have" is more polite.

I don't like "can I get" either - "could I have" is more polite.

While in America, an American explained this. He said that 'could I have' is asking their permission for them. Spoke saying to a waiter 'will you allow me to order the steak?'

I kind of get their point, though I am not comfortable saying can I get.

mom and gotten have always been used in Ireland so not just an American thing, there Irish and American members posting here too

The English language is very like German in parts .

It was US got the words from THEM so I don't know if there ever were "purely British words" to begin with.

Gut. Good . Perfekt . Perfect. etc

maxthemartian I thought a room mate was someone (not a partner) that you shared a bedroom with - usually heard in the context of American universities because not many people rent shared rooms now! - and a flatmate was someone you shared a flat (but not a bedroom) with. Different things rather than British/American.

Although Americans don't say 'flat' so they'd be more likely to use 'housemate' for the latter? I don't know.

I get irritated when my DC talks about his "pinky." Yurgh! It's a Little Finger FFS! Pinky sounds creepy.

I agree, and I say that as someone who doesn't usually mind Americanisms and quite likes some of them. I find spelling words with -er more aesthetically pleasing and logical than with -re, for instance.

Pinky, though, is surpassed in creepiness only by 'panties'.

DS2 keeps coming out with ‘Americanisms’. Definitely getting them from YouTube.

We’ve had flashlight, gas, diaper and the other day he said he had to ‘go take a pee’

I cringe a bit when the kids at school ask if there will be a sub meaning supply teacher.

Also I'm from Birmingham. Yes mom is commonly used round these parts but I can't bear it! I want to be mummy not mommy!

It was the Internet, OP.
It also caused the proliferation of creative spelling.