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Yobs pelt disabled lady with flour and eggs Trigger warning sensitive content

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Aeroflotgirl · 30/07/2018 16:42

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/four-teens-arrested-after-yobs-%E2%80%98attack-disabled-woman-with-flour-and-eggs-before-posing-for-snapchat-photo/ar-BBLfpQI?li=BBoPRmx&item=personalization_enabled%3Afalse

This is utterly distressing, as a mother of a child with ASD, and learning difficulties, this could quite easily be my dd in a few years time, and it makes me sick, that there are scum out there that could do that to a vulnerable person.

I believe the yobs have been found and arrested, their parents show no remorse, only the impact of this on their poor boys. No apology to the lady, the apple doesen't fall far from the tree it seems.

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Aeroflotgirl · 30/07/2018 23:57

news.sky.com/story/why-me-asks-vulnerable-woman-covered-in-flour-and-eggs-11454406

Very sad, scum of the earth, they need a good flogging, they really do. In the 90's my friends and I used to hang round the parks in the early evening with our cigarettes and Hooch, we would never dream of doing anything like this, ever. We just used to walk around, have a go on the swings and roundabouts, have a natter and go home.

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Aeroflotgirl · 30/07/2018 23:59

Poor woman, she has more courage in her little finger, than the lot of them and their scummy parents put together.

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Crunchymum · 30/07/2018 23:59

I've asked for it to be deleted

I tried to copy and paste but it didn't work Shock

LighthouseSouth · 30/07/2018 23:59

@CrunchyMum

thank you

the "current tensions" thing is a worry too.

I know there are posters on here who tell us adolescence ends at 25 or something, but the age for naming and picturing people involved in a crime like this could be - 12? Seems reasonable to me. Certainly making people less and less responsible isn't helping anyone.

I wonder if anyone else was around to kick their heads in

daisyinatree · 30/07/2018 23:59

@DimplesToadfoot you poor soul. Sad

How awful to have to endure THAT!

LighthouseSouth · 31/07/2018 00:00

I'd bet money they were looking for a woman alone to do that.

Mariatequila · 31/07/2018 00:01

Disablism isn’t a crime, unlike racism, islamaphobia & homophobia are.
Agree with Devilish,
Mumsnet is a vile hotbed of disablist biggots.

Aeroflotgirl · 31/07/2018 00:02

I hope that this thread, if propelled out there in the media, to bring awareness of how big disability hate crime is, and something done about it, like the other vulnerable groups in society.

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Aeroflotgirl · 31/07/2018 00:08

I hope, even though this lady does not want to see anybody, and that is really understandable, that she knows how much the nation supports her.

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HelenaDove · 31/07/2018 00:09

Journalists seem too scared to name the problem though. Anglia News being a case in point.
Towards the end of todays news one of the presenters made a quip about a Love Island contestant also being interested in birds if the feathered kind.

What is this............1975

HelenaDove · 31/07/2018 00:14

Because we are in the same place today with disabilism that we were pre 1976 before the Race Relations Act. I said the same thing on here in 2011 and in between then and now but we dont appear to be moving forward.

SemperIdem · 31/07/2018 01:17

Horrible shits.

I don’t understand how anyone their age could behave so cruelly towards a vulnerable person.

I will hands up admit that sometimes, with severely disabled people, I feel uncomfortable - as in, I’m not always sure how to appropriately behave when I don’t understand what they are saying/gesturing. But that is my issue and I hope how I do behave comes across as I intend to do, with kindness and a little bit of “i’m going have a chat to you, as I do with everyone else”. I have a very customer facing role so it’s not an unusual occurrence

NT53NJT · 31/07/2018 01:27

I'd of rubbed their faces in the stuff on the floor like you do to dogs when they've shit in the house until they beg to stop.

Vile pieces of shit. Each one of them should be imprisoned. They wouldn't do it again

Devilishpyjamas · 31/07/2018 08:06

Dimples I was told on the here yesterday that I was imagining people with disabilities getting abuse (e.g. my son who is learning disabled was told to fuck off by a man in a jag). I think your story is all too common.

And meanwhile elsewhere on mumsnet we’re being told that only people who can be guaranteed to behave appropriately should be allowed out. That’s my learning disabled son out then. That attitude (which is rife in another current thread) is every bit as much disablism as this horrendous act. If you think that people with learning disabilities shouldn’t have the same right as access because they ‘might’ scald a baby (they might, so might anyone - I was scalded as a small child by someone with no learning disabilities in an accident in public), or they might push someone in the road and make them die (they might, so might anyone I was knocked into the road by a middle aged male commuter rushing past me last week, I suppose that could have made me die of a bus happened to becoming past), then you are every bit as disablist as these yobs.

I think my son would probably rather be pelted in flour than told he’s not allowed out near normal people - which isn’t to diminish the horribleness of this incident - just to point out that what people (on here) see as acceptable attitudes are every bit as damaging.

Incidentally I know of a young adult with learning disabilities who was targeted in a city centre by teenagers last week (while she was with a carer). These things are increasing.

maxthemartian · 31/07/2018 08:30

This story has made me feel absolutely sick and enraged. Just how bad a person must you be to do something like this? I can't get my head around it.

NorbertTheDragon · 31/07/2018 08:35

My friend works in a supermarket that my sons special school use regularly to take their kids to learn life skills like shopping and ordering food in a cafe. Some of the kids can be loud while out (including my own son who stims noisily a lot)

She had one man come to her checkout and say that kids like that shouldn't be allowed out. Angry

I've had tuts and eye rolls when my ds has been noisy. His speech is very repetitive, you can tell as soon as he starts talking he's not a "normal" 16 yo. Of course I try to explain to him when I need him to be quiet and he's generally pretty good, but he does have limited understanding so he doesn't always realise.

Devilishpyjamas · 31/07/2018 08:39

She had one man come to her checkout and say that kids like that shouldn't be allowed out

He should pop along to the current mumsnet thread full of people saying the same.

TheFairyCaravan · 31/07/2018 08:42

DIsablism is a hate crime

I had fireworks thrown at my open bedroom window and they tried to get them through the letter box when I was recovering from spinal surgery. My house has been egged, vile things have been written in aerosol paint on our front lawn, to name a few but because it’s was gang and the police couldn’t pin point those who did it they all got away with it. It was a horrendous time for me and my family.

Aeroflotgirl · 31/07/2018 08:53

I am shocked that these backward attitudes are rife on Mumsnet, has the offending threads been deleted. My dd 11 can be repetative, and stims out in public, when she does that, she does not look like an nt child you can tell. Our experiences have been positive thank god, but I am shocked and saddened that not all of you have. Maybe it might not be, once dd becomes an adult, and hopefully more independent. Some of the attitudes belong in the 1950/60s where they would shut away children and people with disabilities and mental health problems.

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Aeroflotgirl · 31/07/2018 10:22

Just heard it being discussed on Wright Stuff, the panel where saying she was a 'little old lady', she is 49 fgs!

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SilentEm564 · 31/07/2018 11:45

I don't care what the law calls it, hate crime or whatnot... it's VILE . And what's more, the parents are VILE too for defending their darling yobs.

Has any of them actually even apologised? Not a "I'm sorry I was caught" apology, but a sincere "I was a massive idiot, what can I do to make this right" apology?

aintnothinbutagstring · 31/07/2018 12:20

It doesn't really surprise me, when you hear how awful the attitudes are of some parents towards anyone that is different to them, their children stand no hope of becoming decent human beings.

84CharingCrossRoad · 31/07/2018 16:31

Two years ago I was taking Wilf to the theatre for his birthday. We got on the tube at the beginning of the line so had to wait for the train to leave. Wilf was getting excited and being a bit noisy. The guy opposite us decided to tap Wilf sharply on the ankle with his foot and tell him to be quiet.
I went absolutely nuts at him. Told him Wilf was deaf and if he had a problem with it then to talk to me and not kick Wilf. Wilf started wailing and the bloke started to backtrack and say everything was OK. I then realised the bloke was drunk. I said everything was not OK and how dare he upset my son and spoil our weekend. By the time I finished the whole carriage was silent and I didn't hear a peep from the man. He got off three stops down the line!!

GoatWithACoat · 31/07/2018 17:27

I am so angry at the parents. Minimising, (it was a silly joke) deflecting (he took the photo he didn’t join in)

So WHAT?! If that were my son I’d be telling him I couldn’t give a damn if he threw an egg or took the picture. They are all equally fucking disgusting things to do.

Birthday party? He’d never have a fucking party or present from me again.

Any one that lets their kid attend that little bastards birthday party is also part of the problem.

The very fact they thought people would laugh on social media about it speaks volumes. Their first response when a negative comment came up was “why are you getting angry you don’t know the woman”.

Those kids have clearly been raised with a massive sense of entitlement with ineffective and indulgent parents.

GoldenChildReturns · 31/07/2018 23:12

"this isn't what we need, it's my son's 16th birthday..." 16????? way old enough to know better. Disgusting.

I remember a Simpsons episode where Nelson Muntz, the school bully laughs at a very tall man trying to drive a tiny car. The man gets out the car, pullsNelson's pants down and makes him march down the street waving and blowing kisses. This is only a fraction of the humilation i would like to heap on theis 16 year old.

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