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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

999 replies

lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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Gumpendorf · 14/08/2018 17:25

Omarosa alleges that Chief of Staff Kelly blamed the hurricane crisis on Puerto Rico's "already screwed up" infrastructure and accused the island government of trying to exploit the tragedy to get money from Washington. https://nbcnews.to/2B8Sr5T

(Thanks mimi)

lionheart · 14/08/2018 17:31

Jim Sciutto
‏Verified account
@jimsciutto

'Breaking: Paul Manafort's team will not present a case nor call any witnesses in his defense. The defense rested at 11:53 am.'

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/08/2018 17:48

Ok. So. Why would the Manafort defense team not put on a defense, and how unusual is it?

It's not unusual at all. It's common. Here are some possible reasons why. /1
Thread:
twitter.com/popehat/status/1029399456490315780?s=21

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ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 18:40

And this:
SituationRoomHat
@Popehat
My friend and classmate Mitch has some informed and plausible supposition on the Manafort defense.
mobile.twitter.com/Popehat/status/1029420418996858882
Mitchell Epner
@MitchellEpner
Manafort Trial pattern recognition, not inside knowledge:
I believe that Paul Manafort's attorneys elected not to put him on the witness stand or present any other evidence because they had received one or more negative rulings during the sealed hearing yesterday. /1

I expect that the hearing was about whether certain testimony by Paul Manafort (or his witnesses) would "open the door" to the Government being allowed to bring in evidence of other bad acts by Paul Manafort that were not charged in the indictment-either under Rule 404(b) . . /2
Mitchell
. . . (other bad acts) or Rule 608 (witness testimony about character for truthfulness or untruthfulness).

I further suspect that Judge Ellis elected to hold this hearing under seal to minimize the possibility that the news coverage of the acts described reached the jury . . /3

. . . (who are supposed to be avoiding all press accounts of the case).

We will know after the trial ends whether my pattern recognition is accurate, because Judge Ellis has stated on the record that he will unseal the transcript after this trial ends. /end

mobile.twitter.com/MitchellEpner/status/1029418752557953029

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 20:00

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/08/2018 21:45

Why the White House Can’t Stop Omarosa Manigault-Newman From Talking
www.lawfareblog.com/why-white-house-cant-stop-omarosa-manigault-newman-talking

The Constitution won’t let Trump silence White House aides
No matter how much the president loves them, the government can only enforce nondisclosure agreements for classified information.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/posteverything/wp/2018/08/14/the-constitution-wont-let-trump-silence-white-house-aides/?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 21:47

This is quite something from a Press Sec. about a POTUS:
Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs
Asked if Trump's racist, Sarah Sanders: "He has made a number of comments about plenty of people and to try to single that out to one group is frankly silly.
"Because I think if you did a comparison, he's probably got a lot more nasty things out there about some other people."
mobile.twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1029454168732446722

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 21:49

Quite something:
Kevin Liptak
@Kevinliptakcnn
Not a very cheerful day when the White House is denying presidential racism by citing the many insults the President has directed at people of all races
mobile.twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/status/1029447589358383106

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 21:54

Jeremy Diamond
@JDiamond1
This briefing is a perfect example of the ways in which this White House only uses the briefing to defend Trump from controversy, but fails to use it to advance its policy -- particularly abroad...
Given opportunities to talk Turkey's imprisonment of Andrew Brunson & China's growing influence in Latin America, Sanders all-but punted, offering brief answers that give no insight into the administration's stance or how it aims to project its policies around the world...

Traditionally, the White House sees the daily briefing as an opportunity to make its views on policy issues known & send clear signals around the world. Rarely used in this White House.
(And Afghanistan today as well, @Kevinliptakcnn points out)
mobile.twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1029448931820937216

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 22:23

They all need to do it, every reporter at every presser:
Michael M. Grynbaum
@grynbaum
For those keeping track of White House press room solidarity:
Fox News's @kevincorke deferred to NBC's Kristen Welker when Sanders tried to move on from Welker's persistent questions on a possible "n-word" tape.
mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1029446389275807750

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 22:36

What if, indeed? That could make for some seductive pillow talk chez ConwayGrin
George Conway
@gtconway3d
Interesting analogy. Likewise, what if a CEO routinely made false and misleading statements about himself, the company, and results, and publicly attacked business partners, company “divisions” (w/ scare quotes!), employees, and analysts, and kowtowed to a dangerous competitor?
Philip Bump
@pbump
How would the board of a company react if the CEO told them that he hadn't fired an unqualified employee who was disliked by coworkers because the employee constantly praised him? link: www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/13/trumps-remarkable-admission-on-the-central-qualification-for-white-house-staffers/ washingtonpost.com/news/politics/…
mobile.twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1029352670304370688

AcrossthePond55 · 14/08/2018 23:16

For those of you with Amazon Video (US), this is a very interesting documentary. Not sure if it's available in the UK

www.amazon.com/Brainwashing-My-Dad-Matthew-Modine/dp/B01C6AFEQG?tag=mumsnetforum-21

ohmymimi · 14/08/2018 23:25

Thanks for the reminder about 'Brainwashing My Dad', Across , I had read about it and forgotten to check my Prime - it is available here, and now on my watchlistSmile

cozietoesie · 15/08/2018 01:22

Yes it's available here, Across, as mimi said.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/08/2018 07:11

And to think he has the nerve to criticise Maxine Waters' headgear!

@ForCripesSake "Looks like it's from the Roger Stone 'Safari Collection'."
twitter.com/aynrandpaulryan/status/1029609025434923009?s=21

'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.
mackerella · 15/08/2018 07:18

George Conway is continuing his trolling of Trump by retweeting this:

George Conway Retweeted
Mark Berman
@markberman
“The president, who has an aversion to dogs and other pets, considers canine comparisons to be among his most devastating put-downs.”

he.....he what?
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/he-created-omarosa-how-trumps-protege-turned-his-tactics-against-him/2018/08/14/53d2c8f0-9fcd-11e8-83d2-70203b8d7b44_story.html

...followed by lots of photos of former presidents and their dogs (no Obama, though - I guess that really would be a step too far).

mackerella · 15/08/2018 07:21

One of the replies to Mark Berman's tweet also really struck me:

Delph
@delphzzzz
He doesn't like animals and seems to have no interest in art, music, theatre, literature, good food, nature, science, sport, other cultures- in fact only seems interested in money and himself. No depth of character or intellect and no human soul there.

Still on the subject of dogs, didn't T half-offer Barron a dog and then arbitrarily withdraw it? What a shitty thing to do.

ohmymimi · 15/08/2018 07:42

'Manafort defense hopes to gain from missing witnesses’ absence.
With closing arguments set to begin, Paul Manafort's lawyers signal plans to spotlight the absence of key figures in his criminal trial.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/08/14/manafort-trial-defense-witnesses-777578

'How Rick Gates stumbled into his extramarital affair confession.
The bombshell acknowledgment marked a dramatic high point in Paul Manafort's trial, which was mostly filled with bureaucratic testimony.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/08/14/rick-gates-extramarital-affairs-manafort-trial-777352

ohmymimi · 15/08/2018 07:45

'Colbert Has A Savage Response To Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ Latest Defense Of Trump'
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/stephen-colbert-sarah-sanders-donald-trump_us_5b7380d7e4b0182d49ae82ed

ohmymimi · 15/08/2018 07:52

'Chris Cuomo Nails Why Trump Supporters Defend Everything He Does.
CNN anchor warns Trump's defenders: "He's playing you." '
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chris-cuomo-donald-trump-supporters_us_5b738d8fe4b0df9b093a48aa

Christopher C. Cuomo
@ChrisCuomo
Pierson now says she lied. So Trump didn’t say he was embarrassed? Odd thing to make up. Though also odd for trump to be embarrassed about anything it seems seeing how he knows he can say whatever ugly thing he wants and not upset his supporters
Abby D. Phillip
@abbydphillip
Omarosa gives CBS a tape of @KatrinaPierson and @LynnePatton on a conference call during the campaign about the alleged "n-word" tape: Pierson says on the tape: "He's said it. He's embarrassed."
mobile.twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1029457943446650880