'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-manigault-newmans-book-the-key-revelations-about-trump

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ice-withheld-deported-parents-numbers-from-lawyers-and-advocates-aclu-says_us_5b6cd9c7e4b0ae32af96b27d

Oh Dear. A Newsweek piece.

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This is novel (representing the DNC).

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'Republicans just announced that they are scheduling a hearing for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh starting on September 4. This is outrageous. No one will be able to look at his full record before the hearing – not me, not you, not anyone. It won’t have been made public.'

I have an inkling that the lyin' net would catch most of the repuglies in Congress Across

Only the best people:
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The White House has a point that everyone should take what Omarosa says with a massive grain of salt. That leads to the obvious follow-up of why she was in the White House in the first place.
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Trump hires people, gives them serious titles in the seat of executive power. Fires them, then his remaining aides are angry that reporters quote a former chief strategist/OPL official/etc link: www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/us/politics/omarosa-donald-trump-racial-slur.html nytimes.com/2018/08/10/us/…
mobile.twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1028018315078365187

Who indeedy?
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Who would have guessed that the big explosive claim in Omarosa's book would go off the rails immediately at the first follow-up question.

Omarosa Tells NPR She Heard Trump 'N-Word Tape,' Contradicting Her Own Tell-All Book

www.npr.org/2018/08/10/636955054/omarosa-tells-npr-she-heard-trump-n-word-tape-contradicting-her-own-tell-all-boo
mobile.twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1028023991376728066

www.splcenter.org/news/2018/08/07/top-trump-administration-immigration-official-appear-hate-group-event

....But none of us should be surprised.....

We talked about this guy many threads ago.

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/peter-w-smith-hillary-clinton-emails-trump-flynn-money

It is interesting that that the Oaf never mentions Avenatti, but that may be driven by some base instinct he has for a certain type of legal jeopardy. But he is not the right one to take on the Oaf. You cannot out Trump the Oaf, and that is entirely the wrong way to go. No idea who will be best to take up the gauntlet, no idea at all.

"What I fear for this Democratic Party that I love so much is that we have a tendency to bring nail clippers to a gunfight," he said in an almost 30-minute speech at the Iowa Democratic Wing Ding dinner, a fundraiser in the northern part of the state that is a frequent stop for presidential hopefuls. "I believe that our party, the Democratic Party, must be a party that fights fire with fire."

Cribbing but amending Obama, Avenatti added, "When they go low, I say, we hit harder."
edition.cnn.com/2018/08/10/politics/avenatti-wing-ding-speech/index.html
uk.businessinsider.com/michael-avenatti-2020-trump-challenger-democratic-party-2018-8?r=US&IR=T

'If we fight Trumpism with Trumpian tactics, American politics will continue to be a pissing match of who can be the most outrageous and entertaining candidate. Can't we go back to having presidents who have some experience in politics prior to their run for the highest office in the land.'
www.vice.com/en_us/article/594jva/michael-avenatti-wants-to-be-president-and-i-want-to-die

From the Wing Dinner speech:
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.@MichaelAvenatti: "What I fear for this Democratic party that I love so much is that we have a tendency to bring nail clippers to gunfights."

Avenatti: "I believe that our party, the Democratic Party, must be a party that fights fire with fire."

"When they go low, I say We. Hit. Harder."
"There is no question that we are the party of love in American life today... But here’s what I believe. When you’re fighting for the values of love, you can’t afford to fight lovingly."

"If we want a more inclusive, tolerant, compassionate, welcoming, gracious and merciful America, we must be willing to do battle to achieve it."

"We trial lawyers get a bad name, and some of us deserve it, but I can stand here today and say with pride that I’m not just some TV lawyer — I’ve been fighting for Davids all my life."

“When you’re fighting on behalf of regular people — as we Democrats are — you cannot be shy about fighting. You must own it. And never look back.”

Now Avenatti ticks off policy goals but not quite specifics-

-infrastructure
-college affordability
-Medicare for all
-ratifying the ERA
-gun control
-supporting public school teachers
-secure borders, but "refusing to steal children"
mobile.twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1028097208376279041

www.salon.com/amp/your-talking-points-are-failed-dnc-vice-chairman-silences-fox-news-host-rnc-spokesperson

www.mercurynews.com/2018/08/09/eric-swalwell-iowa-presidential-run/amp/

Interesting on the Avenatti pitch. He may be a fighter but he's not the right sort of candidate I think. It's as bad as Oprah. Hasn't the US had enough of sleb candidates?

Politics has always been dirty (Obama aside) and Trump has just made it dirtiest because that is how he rolls. He's a bully and bullies fear other bullies and not people who play clean and hope they will get extra electoral points for that. Avenatti isn't a politician but he's an operator and his willingness to fight dirty would scare Trump.

I don't know if Avenatti is the right person but no-one in the current political world has the ability/reputation to take on Trump and I'm not sure the electorate are in the mood to elect a Washington insider. Maybe by 2024, the pendulum will have swung back.

Omarosa claims in new book: Trump 'racist,' used N-word, tried to buy her silence www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/omarosa-claims-new-book-trump-racist-used-n-word-n899581 via @nbcnews

Newman further claims the White House tried to buy her silence after she left. She asserts in the book that within 24 hours of her departure, Lara Trump, the president's daughter-in-law, emailed her a contract to work on the president's re-election campaign for $15,000 per month.

The contract, Newman wrote, came with a nondisclosure agreement attached that was "as harsh and restrictive as any I’d seen in all my years of television."
"It said that I was forbidden from ever talking about the entire Trump family or the entire Pence family, to anyone in the universe, for all of eternity," she writes. "I declined the offer. I was done with

$15k is also what Keith Schiller, Trump's former bodyguard is paid. uk.businessinsider.com/rnc-trump-bodyguard-keith-schiller-slush-fund-payments-2018-2

I wonder how many more $15k payments are being made to ex Trump staff. Sean Spicer? Reince Priebus? Hope Hicks? Rob Porter?

And does anyone really think that Trump doesn't use the N word? The man has no filter, no decency. He doesn't draw the line anywhere.

My fear is that if there is taped evidence that is published, his supporters will defend him and will assume they have permission to use it too.

First item on All In with Chris Hayes is interesting and informative update/discussion on Miller/Stone ( Includes Benjamin Wittes):

'Melber explained, “The technical term for what’s happening––what’s coming from the Trump lawyers––is a meltdown.” '
www.mediaite.com/tv/ari-melber-rips-into-giuliani-and-sekulows-bizarre-hannity-guest-hosting-gig/

'Perhaps the most absurd moment occurred when Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett joined the show’s third hour. During a discussion where Jarrett, Sekulow, and Giuliani claimed that collusion cannot be a crime as a matter of law (they are wrong), Giuliani said, “Even conspiracy is not a crime. It’s got to be a conspiracy to commit a crime,” to which Jarrett responded, “Right, we conspire every day to have lunch, or breakfast, or whatever, that’s not a crime.” '

www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/08/10/sean-hannity-turned-over-his-radio-show-trump-lawyers-rudy-giuliani-and-jay-sekulow-undermine/220968
'President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani said that if he were attorney general, he would appoint a special counsel to “appropriately prosecute” former FBI Director James Comey for allegedly leaking documents. Giuliani made the comments while guest hosting conservative commentator Sean Hannity’s radio show Friday.'
www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-says-hed-appoint-special-counsel-appropriately-prosecute-james-1069267

Giuliani as AG. Now there's a thought to frighten us.

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Rep. Eric Swalwell is thinking about running for President in 2020,

www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-democrat-sparks-speculation-of-presidential-run-with-iowa-visit