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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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lionheart · 10/08/2018 16:10

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-space-force-branding-trump-logos/567173/

'The gap between the hype and reality of the proposed new branch of the military makes the project almost entirely an exercise in misleading branding.'

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cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 16:10

It will be interesting to see what arguments can be mustered against the basic thrust of the proposal. Grin

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 16:12

Sorry. That was in response to the bipartisan NY proposal.

lionheart · 10/08/2018 16:14

www.cnbc.com/2018/08/10/roger-stone-linked-manhattan-madam-to-testify-in-mueller-probe.html

The former "Manhattan Madam" and political protege of President Donald Trump's informal advisor Roger Stone is set to testify Friday before a grand jury in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe.

The ex-madam, Kristin Davis, who said she supplied prostitutes to then-New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, was subpoenaed by Mueller last month as part of his probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Davis, 41, met last week with members of Mueller's team.

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cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 16:18

Testifying 'voluntarily'. Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2018 16:19

I'm starting (for my own sanity) to get laser focussed on November. I hate to put all my eggs in one basket (Come on Blue Wave) but all the shit going on now is giving me real anxiety. I have to focus on the cure, not the disease.

Of course, I'm still watching Maddow and listening to the reports. It's just that my response to all the craziness is "Blue wave, blue wave, blue wave" muttered over and over like a talisman.

ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 16:24

'The Donald Trump Super PAC Machine Has Sean Spicer, Kimberly Guilfoyle, And A Vague Plan For The Midterms'

'It is a lifestyle PAC to help enrich a bunch of a consultants,” said one Republican strategist, who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “It is a PAC to throw parties, to drink, and to raise a lot of money. Every month you read about a new consultant — Sean Spicer, Don Jr.’s girlfriend. Everyone’s on payroll.” '

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/donald-trump-america-first-kim-guilfoyle-midterms

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 16:50

I'm not surprised that everyone's on payroll. And they're going to need one heck of a lot of money, given expenditure needed so far.

I hear you, Across, By The Way.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/08/2018 17:15

Yes Across I'm in similar place. The current Brexit and Trump fuckery Is making me very jittery. Angry

lionheart · 10/08/2018 17:56

Some people do not 'volunteer' at all, cozie.

Ellen Nakashima
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@nakashimae

BREAKING: A federal judge holds Roger Stone aide, Andrew Miller, in contempt for refusing to testify before a grand jury in the Special Counsel's Russia investigation.

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lionheart · 10/08/2018 18:04

It seems they want this to go to an Appeal so they can call Mueller's scope into question (this much I have got from tweeting lawyer people).

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cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 18:53

It nonetheless fascinates me when people think that they're going to fare so much better under questioning if they appear 'voluntarily'. Wink

lionheart · 10/08/2018 19:06

I find the attempts by the Trump lawyers to dictate the terms of his dealings with the investigators most perplexing. Hmm

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lionheart · 10/08/2018 19:08

Devlin Barrett (WP)
Verified account
@DevlinBarrett

NEW: Miller wanted "some" immunity on questions regarding PACs and Stone. His subpoena also seeks info on Guccifer 2.0, DCLeaks, Wikileaks, and Assange. (Miller's lawyer says he doesn't have info about those).

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PerkingFaintly · 10/08/2018 19:58

A techie's-eye of voting software (mouse-over for extraSmile):

Voting Software
xkcd.com/2030/

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 20:21

.....Wear gloves.....Grin

ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 20:34

Statement from Sarah Sanders on Omarosa
Lyin' liar lies about lyin' liar lyin' about lyin' liar's lies.

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Omarosa paints an unflattering portrait of Ivanka Trump in her book, as a foul-mouthed favorite of her father who was involved in efforts to root out leaks last year.
Omarosa Manigault Newman was a contestant on the first season of “The Apprentice” and later served was an adviser to Donald J. Trump on the campaign trail and at the White House.
Trump Used Racial Slur During ‘Celebrity Apprentice,’ Former Aide Says
nytimes.com
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1027957848943284225
@maggieNYT
White House officials had gotten Trump to agree to ignore the book for most of the week. That held till 12:25 pm today.
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1027958092074573825
Alexander Nazaryan
@alexnazaryan
Statement from Sarah Sanders on Omarosa. via @maggieNYT
mobile.twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1027957400668532737

ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 20:43

'Manafort trial resumes after 5-hour delay'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/10/politics/paul-manafort-trial-day-nine/index.html

ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 21:02

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Grassley says he expects Kavanaugh hearings to last 3-4 days. Opening statements by Senate Judiciary Committee members and nominee will occur Sept. 4. The questioning of Kavanaugh will begin on Wednesday, Sept. 5.
mobile.twitter.com/mkraju/status/1028004179091116032

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2018 21:04

Lyin' liar lies about lyin' liar lyin' about lyin' liar's lies

I think you've just summed up the entire White House staff, mimi

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2018 21:04

Oh, and Devin Nunes too.

ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 21:05

'Mueller subpoenas Randy Credico, who Roger Stone says was his WikiLeaks back-channel'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/10/politics/randy-credico-roger-stone-wikileaks/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 10/08/2018 21:06

Little doc explianing why Mueller v. Trump won't go so well for the latter.

s3.amazonaws.com/storage.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/28214023/ACS-CREW-Report-Evidentiary-Privileges-Can-Do-Little-to-Block-Trump-Related-Investigations.pdf

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ohmymimi · 10/08/2018 21:07

True dat:
Josh Campbell
@joshscampbell

C.J. Cregg: "Last one to get a subpoena is a rotten egg."

Toby Ziegler: "Last one to get a subpoena is the focus of the investigation."

mobile.twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1028002850167640064

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