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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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cozietoesie · 08/08/2018 22:32

Not a surprise, I fear. Thanks, lion.

Roussette · 09/08/2018 07:16

So Trump has relaxed the laws on using asbestos as a building material, is he trying to kill everyone, what madness is this. Obama tightened up on this...

This is a picture of newly imported asbestos with his picture stamped on the packaging saying 'approved by Donald Trump the 45th President of the United States'

hyperallergic.com/454794/as-us-rules-for-asbestos-are-sidestepped-a-russian-manufacturer-emblazons-trumps-face-on-their-shipments/

'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.
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lionheart · 09/08/2018 07:53

Ari Melber
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Verified account

@AriMelber
5h5 hours ago
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Wow the @Maddow scoop on this new secret tape of Devin Nunes reveals:

  1. Nunes secretly wants another Rosenstein impeachment push — just after SCOTUS hearing

  2. Nunes admits foreign collusion on stolen email is a crime

(A legal fact, but at odds with Trump legal team)

uk.businessinsider.com/devin-nunes-leaked-audio-russia-investigation-trump-republicans-midterms-2018-8?r=US&IR=T

www.rawstory.com/2018/08/maddow-obtains-tape-devin-nunes-confessing-gop-plan-impeach-rosenstein-must-impede-investigation-goes-away/?comments=disqus

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TheClaws · 09/08/2018 07:57

But ... it isn’t a perjury trap if he tells the truth, right? Grin However - and stay with me here - we know Trump lies, all the time. His grasp of ‘truth’ seems quantifiably different to most people’s; and the problem there is he doesn’t see the problem. Fox’s tweet below might seem a little naïve, but I think they understand it more than most. It is more complex than “just tell the truth”.

Fox News @FoxNews
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Jay Sekulow on Mueller's request to interview @POTUS: "This legal team is not walking this president to a perjury trap, not going to happen." @IngrahamAngle fxn.ws/2B5uI6T

TheClaws · 09/08/2018 07:59

That said, I think he should be interviewed. Perjure away Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/08/2018 08:11

Fox News’ ‘Hard News’ Shows Have a ‘Ban’ on Seb Gorka
www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-hard-news-shows-have-a-ban-on-sebastian-gorka

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 08:20

Curly and Moe:

'Trump connects with Rand ‘at gut level’
Enemies on the 2016 campaign trail, the Kentucky senator and the iconoclastic president have developed a quiet Washington friendship.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/08/08/rand-paul-trump-russia-putin-768472

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 08:31

Even Poxy Foxy think Porky Gorky is a clown.BurnGrin

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 08:52

RBG's excoriating dissent to the SCOTUS decision gutting the VRA, and, of course, she has been proven right
www.documentcloud.org/documents/717244-supreme-court-decision-in-shelby-county-v-holder.html#document/p32

7 Nov 2016 - 'This is the first election without the full Voting Rights Act — and it's already a disaster'
theweek.com/articles/659599/first-election-without-full-voting-rights-act--already-disaster

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 09:01

MANAFORT TRIAL

'Cranky judge, flawed witness threaten Mueller’s Manafort case.
A seeming slam-dunk case runs up against 'improper statements' and other obstacles as the prosecution prepares to wrap up.'

' ......... But Timothy Belevetz, a former assistant U.S. attorney from the eastern district of Virginia, downplayed Ellis’ influence over the jury, saying that Northern Virginia jurors “tend to be fairly smart and sophisticated.”
“Ultimately, what is likely to govern the jury’s decision is the evidence itself — the exhibits, the testimony, the credibility of the witnesses — and the persuasiveness of the parties’ arguments,” he said. “Indications of displeasure over counsel’s facial expressions or lack of formality probably won’t be a factor in the jury’s decision.”

www.politico.com/story/2018/08/08/manafort-trial-mueller-gates-ellis-768715

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 09:27

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
The GOP Congressional view: Regardless of what facts are uncovered, we’ll stand by the president. But once they’ve decided that, they’re tempted to resist having all the facts come to light. After all, all the facts could do is put members of Congress in a difficult situation...

@AaronBlake
BREAKING: @maddow has fundraiser audio of Nunes saying this:

"If Sessions won't un-recuse and Mueller won't clear the president, we're the only ones -- which is really the danger. That's why I keep, and thank you for saying it by the way, I mean we have to keep all these seats"
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mobile.twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1027377986943807488

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 09:38

No law requires it Hmm
Justin Wolfers
@JustinWolfers
Area man who rails against election fraud believes that he should be the election official overseeing the recount in his own tight election race.
The Kansas City Star
@KCStar
Updated: Kris Kobach won’t recuse himself from a recount in governor’s race. No law requires it. link: www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216299955.html kansascity.com/news/politics-…

mobile.twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1027292858146082816

Gumpendorf · 09/08/2018 09:47

This is a huge corruption scandal.

Trump gave power to make decisions at the VA - affecting every US veteran - to three men who are neither government officials nor vets.

Their only qualification: membership at Mar-A-Lago, for which they pay Trump.
https://www.propublica.org/article/ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va

https://twitter.com/RepDonBeyer/status/1027241630900936705

There's lots of it around, it seems.

Gumpendorf · 09/08/2018 09:53

I'm worried about the Manafort trial. Only one juror needs to hold out to declare a mistrial. That would be a huge propaganda boost for the anti Mueller brigade. No wonder the prosecutor is getting frustrated.

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 10:01

Ryan - 🙈🙉 or 🐔 or 💤 - so many choices
Domenico Montanaro
@DomenicoNPR
Wonder what @SpeakerRyan will do? Will he still allow Nunes to head the House investigation into Russian interference now that Nunes is admitting he’s acting as a partisan to protect the president?
mobile.twitter.com/DomenicoNPR/status/1027383757022679040
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
This reveals the blatant cynicism and hypocrisy underlying and linking both the crazy talk of impeaching Rosenstein and the headlong rush to confirm Kavanaugh. It makes a mockery of the confirmation and impeachment processes and treats law as a sick joke.
www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna899031?__twitter_impression=true
mobile.twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1027367589041848320

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 10:12

Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
And it suggests a GOP scheme to use its chosen SCOTUS nominee to shield the obstruction of justice about which Giuliani is telling Mueller Trump won’t voluntarily answer questions. What a tangled & conspiratorial web they weave! @JRubinBlogger @maddow @chrislhayes @AriMelber
Jennifer Rubin
@JRubinBlogger
Replying to @tribelaw
It is damning of Cathy McRodgers who stands there like a lump on log and more so on Ryan who allows this circus to go on
mobile.twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1027373317018316800

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 10:20

Nina Totenberg
@NinaTotenberg
What does Donald Trump’s desire to hire and fire at will have to do with the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?
www.npr.org/2018/08/07/636108610/is-trump-about-to-be-able-to-say-you-re-fired-to-a-lot-more-people
mobile.twitter.com/NinaTotenberg/status/1026809242488057856

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 11:16

'Why Chris Collins' indictment was a very long time coming'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/08/politics/chris-collins-indictment-questions/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 11:20

'Giuliani says GOP could benefit if Trump's negotiations with Mueller drag on'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/08/politics/rudy-giuliani-robert-mueller-trump-interview-negotiations-gop/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 11:29

The Oafspring - Timber!
'Like father, like son: Trump Jr. defiant about Russia probe'
apnews.com/amp/3a2ebb4a541c4e9d80e159f1911f8715?__twitter_impression=true

PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2018 11:56

Woman in South Carolina comes a cropper when cop fails to be racist:

US drink-drive suspect tells police she's 'clean, white girl'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45119326

A US woman arrested after speeding through a stop sign asked police to let her off because she is "a clean, thoroughbred white girl", officers say.
The arresting officer, who is white, detailed in his official report how Lauren Cutshaw, 32, appealed to him for special treatment based on her race.
When asked why, Ms Cutshaw replied: "You're a cop; you should know what that means," the report states.
She was arrested on Saturday night and also charged with drug possession.
Ms Cutshaw was pulled over after she drove through a stop sign at 60mph (96km/h) in Bluffton, South Carolina.
As officers began investigating, she argued that she should not be arrested.
Ms Cutshaw told officers she had perfect grades her whole life, was a cheerleader and sorority girl, had graduated from a "high accredited university" and that her partner was a police officer, according to a law enforcement report viewed by local news site The Island Packet.