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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2018 12:00

US sanctions against Russia because of the novichok attack announced last night.

Skripal case: US sanctions over Novichok hit Russian rouble
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45126207

The new sanctions will take effect on or around 22 August. They cover exports of sensitive electronic components and other technologies that can have military applications. There will also be some further restrictions on Russian access to US financial services.
The state department says "more draconian" sanctions will follow within 90 days if Russia fails to give reliable assurances that it will no longer use chemical weapons and will allow on-site inspections by the United Nations.
The threatened measures include a far-reaching trade embargo on Russia - but excluding food - and a ban on Aeroflot flights to the US.

PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2018 12:02

From the same article:

After pressure from Republican members of Congress, the state department has determined Moscow broke international law by using a military-grade chemical weapon on the Skripals.
While the US expelled some five dozen diplomats shortly after the poisoning, the administration stopped short of making a formal determination that Russia had broken international law.
But Congress has been pushing for such a decision and now the state department has confirmed Russia's actions contravened 1991 US legislation on the use of chemical weapons. That breach automatically triggers the imposition of sanctions and places requirements on Russia to avert further restrictions in three months' time.

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 12:08

Seth Abramson
Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
As @ChrisRaimondi notes, the image below may be the MOST damning piece of evidence indicating Trump a) knew of the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting and b) knew what it was about. In the first 9 months of 2016, his first tweet about Clinton's emails was...

...the day of the meeting.
Thread;
mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1027338771082227712

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PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2018 12:47

More from that Twitter thread on Nunes talking to GOP fundraiser:
mobile.twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1027358898913726464

Aaron Blake
@ AaronBlake
BREAKING: @maddow has fundraiser audio of Nunes saying this:
"If Sessions won't un-recuse and Mueller won't clear the president, we're the only ones -- which is really the danger. That's why I keep, and thank you for saying it by the way, I mean we have to keep all these seats"

Aaron Blake
@ AaronBlake
Here's the full quote for anyone who wants:
Embedded
REP. NUNES (R-CA) So therein lies what's like your classic Catch-22 situation where we're at a it puts us in such a tough spot. If Sessions won't un-recuse and Mueller won't clear the president, we're the only ones which is really the danger. That's why I keep, and thank you for saying it by the way, I mean we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority. If we do not keep the majority, all this goes away."

Jeff Roybal
@ Matrix_EndGame
So what he is really saying is "This is why we must commit treason with Russia to rig the election again or else it's curtains for the GOP."

G. Guerci
@ gladmeister
Once you’re “in” , there is only one way out - at least that is, from my minimal understanding of organized crime that is...so yea, it’s for keeps. There have to be some major meetings going on.

Roussette · 09/08/2018 13:23

This is moving from Chris Cuomo... well worth watching.

edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/09/cuomo-trump-immigrants-closing-argument-cpt-sot-vpx.cnn

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/08/2018 13:52

Thanks Gumpendorf for the link at 9.47 to the Propublica report on the 'Mar A Lago Crowd'. I'm Shock at the audacity of these people and heaven knows I really shouldn't be anymore!
I feel like something may come to the boil soon - I pray that it's a bigly fat indictment or similar.

Roussette · 09/08/2018 14:17

This is shocking. Three of 45's cronies from MarALago appear to be running the Veterans Association. Not appointed, no experience, this is very murky.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/three-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-buddies-are-secretly-running-the-va

PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2018 14:18

Yep, thank you both ohmymimi and Gumpendorf, for linking that Propublica report. I've been trying to get up the energy to summarise it.

Basically it explains what had been puzzling me: why choosing the senior management of Veteran Affairs has been so important to Trump.

The answer is: swamp.

Just as profit-seeking companies in the UK salivate at the thought of getting their hands on the NHS's vast taxpayer funded budgets, if only the NHS could be forced to outsource to them... So the VA is a honeypot of taxpayer money over which profit-seeking companies have been drooling in the US.

A trio of Mar-A-Lago cronies, hand-in-glove with carefully picked senior management for the VA, seem to have been attempting to do just that.

The article is long and detailed, and well worth the read.

Last February, shortly after Peter O’Rourke became chief of staff for the Department of Veterans Affairs, he received an email from Bruce Moskowitz with his input on a new mental health initiative for the VA. “Received,” O’Rourke replied. “I will begin a project plan and develop a timeline for action.”

O’Rourke treated the email as an order, but Moskowitz is not his boss. In fact, he is not even a government official. Moskowitz is a Palm Beach doctor who helps wealthy people obtain high-service “concierge” medical care.

More to the point, he is one-third of an informal council that is exerting sweeping influence on the VA from Mar-a-Lago, President Donald Trump’s private club in Palm Beach, Florida. The troika is led by Ike Perlmutter, the reclusive chairman of Marvel Entertainment, who is a longtime acquaintance of President Trump’s. The third member is a lawyer named Marc Sherman. None of them has ever served in the U.S. military or government.

Yet from a thousand miles away, they have leaned on VA officials and steered policies affecting millions of Americans. They have remained hidden except to a few VA insiders, who have come to call them “the Mar-a-Lago Crowd.”

Perlmutter, Moskowitz and Sherman declined to be interviewed and fielded questions through a crisis-communications consultant.

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 16:29

Isaac Arnsdorf
@iarnsdorf
INBOX: @SenBlumenthal calls for "immediate reforms" after @ProPublica report on VA shadow rulers:
(link: www.propublica.org/article/democrats-vow-investigation-of-va-shadow-rulers-after-propublica-story) propublica.org/article/democr…
(link: www.propublica.org/article/ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va) propublica.org/article/ike-pe…

mobile.twitter.com/iarnsdorf/status/1027571335906697219

cozietoesie · 09/08/2018 16:31

Poor Across and other US posters.

Stay or go

lionheart · 09/08/2018 16:39

Swampy as can be.

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ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 16:40

ProPublica
@ProPublica
While making “Documenting Hate: Charlottesville,” we identified one assailant who was a U.S. Marine, and another who held a U.S. government security clearance. Here’s what’s happened to them since our initial reporting was published.

Watch more: (link: to.pbs.org/2vQCknE) to.pbs.org/2vQCknE
mobile.twitter.com/ProPublica/status/1027566804829437957

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/08/2018 17:48

O'Connor is still hanging in there.

Ohio county finds hundreds of uncounted votes in already too-close-to-call special election
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401026-ohio-county-finds-hundreds-of-more-uncounted-votes-in

cozietoesie · 09/08/2018 17:49

Oh Boy.

lionheart · 09/08/2018 19:02

win for children and the planet

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lionheart · 09/08/2018 19:03

Lose.

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

'This is an illegally brought Rigged Witch Hunt run by people who are totally corrupt and/or conflicted. It was started and paid for by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats. Phony Dossier, FISA disgrace and so many lying and dishonest people already fired. 17 Angry Dems? Stay tuned!'

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cozietoesie · 09/08/2018 19:38

It's hard to imagine that 'The Bodfather' hasn't got Plans B through Z in his mind.

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 19:38

Gosh:
Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
I discussed this issue yesterday in my interview with Roll Call—saying I expected the prosecution to ask the judge to issue a special instruction to the jury about his past comments to prosecutors and witnesses. That said, I'll admit I didn't think it would happen this quickly!
Josh Gerstein
@joshgerstein
BREAKING: Day 8 of Manafort trial begins with prosecutors lodging a written protest with judge for unfairly rebuking them yesterday. Mueller team wants judge to fix it w/jury (link: politi.co/2M42deA) politi.co/2M42deA w/@dsamuelsohn

Jean Millette
@myticketgroups
Replying to @SethAbramson
Judge does the right thing:

Judge Tells Jury 'Put Aside' His Criticism of Manafort Trial Prosecutors
talkingpointsmemo.com
mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1027575652134936580

lionheart · 09/08/2018 20:01

ACLU
‏Verified account
@ACLU
41m41 minutes ago

  1. BREAKING: In challenge to Sessions' policy of denying asylum protection to immigrants fleeing domestic violence and gang brutality, the judge blocked the government from deporting our clients as he considers the case.

However, disturbing news came to light during the hearing.

  1. While in court, we found out that the government had deported a client and her young child just hours before, putting their lives at risk.

This directly contradicts the government's commitment to the court that NO ONE would be removed until tomorrow at the earliest.

The judge ordered the government to turn the plane around and bring the asylum-seeking mother and child back to the US.

  1. He said that if the situation wasn't fixed he would consider contempt proceedings — starting with the attorney general.
  1. This disregard for commitments made to the court and the life or death circumstances that these immigrant women and children are facing is beyond unacceptable.
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ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 20:07

Oh, the irony!
The Associated Press
@AP
BREAKING: Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach's lead in GOP governor primary cut in half after vote mistake discovered.

mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1027625661274443779

ohmymimi · 09/08/2018 20:11

' Kobach's lead in Kansas race falls to 91 votes'

'The lead is minuscule when compared with the 311,000 votes cast.'

www.apnews.com/amp/26c62b01e86e4f73b55586fe86dbd82c?__twitter_impression=true

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