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First day of holidays and neighbour complained about children playing outside

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smileycath · 23/07/2018 22:56

My new neighbour called round this afternoon to complain about my children playing outside. She is retired but works from home as a translator and needs to concentrate and my children's screaming and football games are making this impossible.

I feel gutted. It's the first day of the summer holidays. I'm a lone parent to three boys aged 6, 8 and 9. We don't have a garden and it's only recently that I've felt able to let them go out with friends on the street. They play on the road below and I can keep an eye on them from the window. They are a bit noisy but there's never more than half a dozen of them and they're not a nightmare.

She suggested that we have a compromise and that they be allowed to play out for half an hour in the morning and half an hour in the afternoon. I couldn't agree to this and she obviously thought I was being unreasonable but honestly when the weather is nice I don't want them stuck in front of screens.

She said they should be in the park and that the street wasn't a playground. Fair enough and we do go to the park a lot and I try to take them out at some point every day but some days we're at home for longer periods and I want them to play out. I'm self-employed working from home too and have to squeeze in a few hours each day and this is often when they play out.

She argued they were old enough to go to the park on their own but my youngest is only six and my eldest is slightly autistic and certainly not able to look after the others. Plus there's a road to cross and somebody was recently stabbed in the park during the day!

My next door neighbour overheard our conversation on the doorstep and said FFS but his children are older and go further afield now. I feel like this woman is not going to let it drop and I hate confrontation. What can I do?

OP posts:
bellinisurge · 24/07/2018 16:23

Kids used to play on my Mum's lovely drive - great for football. Until I told them to piss off they started it . On the street? Their business.

missbattenburg · 24/07/2018 16:30

Still seems to be a lot of people saying the children have the right to play in a public space, despite the fact that they don't appear to have...

"If a person plays at football or any other game on a highway to the annoyance of a user of the highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding [F3level 1 on the standard scale]."

Again, we have children play in the street out here that don't really bother me but they don't have the right to do so - even if people think they should have.

PorkFlute · 24/07/2018 16:36

We have a 10mph speed limit on our estate and plenty of signs warning of children playing so I’m pretty sure they have the right to play here.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 16:37

I'd rather my neighbours kids were outside in the street instead of screaming at each other indoors personally
Let me guess, you don't have kids playing in your street.

bellinisurge · 24/07/2018 16:37

I don't think "user of the highway " means a person in their house. Doesn't it mean "another person on the road at the same time"? So a car backing out or a horse and rider on the road, that sort of thing?

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 16:46

What I find strangest about threads like this is that rather than annoy their neighbours and risk their children's safety, why don't parents actually do something with their kids??

I feel sorry for the kids. First day of the summer holidays and your mother can't be bothered to take you to the park.

Kids are only young for a while and then they are teenagers and they can go out safely on their own, why not make the most of it??

If you are supposed to be working from home then young kids should have proper supervision, holiday club or being looked after by somebody else.

"Playing in the street" or "out of my way" isn't fair on them, you, your employer or your neighbours.

SlartiAardvark · 24/07/2018 16:51

Let me guess, you don't have kids playing in your street.

Oh I do, but I also have the little fuckers screaming in their house & thus through the walls - quite annoying when I'm trying to work......

The kids outside are a lot more pleasant to listen to.

seventhgonickname · 24/07/2018 16:52

I live on a culdesac and the children are out all day,nursery to primary school age.They have had a fabulous summer so far on their bikes.
Cars are not an issue,we all love here so drive carefully and the older ones draw the younger away from the road.
They are respectful of parked cars and others drives.They shout and scream when the water guns come out.Mums pop out with trays of juice but I don't think are actively watching them.
I'm used to a rural setting and my DD is a teen but I like the sound of kids playing and outside.
Your neighbour needs to make adjustments or think about whether is is an area she wants to live.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 24/07/2018 16:52

She’s a translator FFS! There’s your clue

If she's translating text rather than audio recordings, then she won't be wearing headphones. already.

SlartiAardvark · 24/07/2018 16:53

why don't parents actually do something with their kids?

Why? Kids are perfectly capable of amusing themselves - it's just that some people seem to be incapable of tolerating it.

They don't need to be shepherded by a parent every minute they're out of the house you know..... Wink

SlartiAardvark · 24/07/2018 16:55

She’s a translator FFS!

Having worked with translators in Bosnia who managed to do their job under fire, I suggest she steps up to the fecking mark & gets on with it.

JacquesHammer · 24/07/2018 16:57

Having worked with translators in Bosnia who managed to do their job under fire, I suggest she steps up to the fecking mark & gets on with it

😂

ILikeSpringRolls · 24/07/2018 16:57

Having worked with translators in Bosnia who managed to do their job under fire

Just FYI that's interpreting. Translating refers to text (common mistake outside the industry).

Veterinari · 24/07/2018 17:02

So you send your kids away from your own house to scream and kick balls at the walls of your neighbour’s house whilst you get on with your own work, and the majority of posters on this thread think that’s ok and you’re neighbour is ‘miserable’ for wanting to do her work in peace without screaming and ball kicking from your children.

Fuck me that’s entitled parenting!

MissLingoss · 24/07/2018 17:05

Your neighbour needs to make adjustments

Why does it have to be the neighbour who makes the adjustments? The issue is that they both want peace and quiet to work from home. Why is the op's need for peace and quiet more important than the neighbour's need, when it's op's kids that are causing the problem?

RaininSummer · 24/07/2018 17:05

I thought people were entitled to quiet enjoyment of their homes. I do think its unreasonable to allow a bunch of.kids to play football outside someones house. I know its not always convenient to entertain kids or escort then to a park but that's parenthood. Quite ironic that op works whilst they are out but neighbour is disturbed. Could you suggest a compromise if one hour each end of the day?

Gettingbackonmyfeet · 24/07/2018 17:13

I'm a bit torn here...on one hand I work from home as well...im out on the road a lot but if I'm at home I'm working. I Alsace so DC (although granted far too young at 5 and 2 to play without supervision outside of our garden)

Firstly to the comments that it's so terribly awful that the OP doesn't take them to the park on the first day of the holidays Hmm don't be ridiculous...have you ever had to combine childcare with working from home? I'm going to guess not so put the judgey pants back down to waist level....they will be so much more comfy there

I think at this time of year and in this heat kids will play in areas such as yours so she was BU and suggesting 30 mins twice a day is just silly

However ....you suggesting not dealing and the library is just as cheeky...i paid extra for my house so we have a room for an office my response to your suggestion would be relatively unprintable...really not ok for you to suggest this

I would suggest going to talk to her properly and suggesting a more reasonable compromise...im not one to give into miners but I do think cut the drama off at the pass

Renegotiate ....basically neither of the two of you should negotiate contracts professionally as you both pitched too far apart

When she's cooler and calmed down perhaps go and discuss it

I do agree about no shouting though ...my eldest is SEN and he can learn that rule

She is being grumpy and miserable but you really didn't help

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 17:23

I know its not always convenient to entertain kids or escort then to a park but that's parenthood
Surely when they are only 6 years old, then they are your main priority.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 17:26

Kids are perfectly capable of amusing themselves - it's just that some people seem to be incapable of tolerating it
Yet again, why does it have to be all or nothing?

Why can't kids play and not scream as loud as they can or kick balls at other people's houses??

What is it with screaming like they are being hurt?

Kids should play but allowing screaming is stupid.

auditqueen · 24/07/2018 17:30

*So you send your kids away from your own house to scream and kick balls at the walls of your neighbour’s house whilst you get on with your own work, and the majority of posters on this thread think that’s ok and you’re neighbour is ‘miserable’ for wanting to do her work in peace without screaming and ball kicking from your children.

Fuck me that’s entitled parenting*

This. It seems that all adults must now pander to children and children don't need to show any respect for adults. Yes I blame the parents, but the kids are growing into adults who are going to get one hell of a shock when they start work.

ILikeSpringRolls · 24/07/2018 17:45

Again with the lack of perspective. Is it just because it's more fun to be hyperbolic and get riled up than to have a rational discussion?

OP said "they kick a ball against walls sometimes. They're not playing exclusively outside her house" during general play on the street outside her house, and that somehow gets interpreted as "you send your kids away from your own house to scream and kick balls at the walls of your neighbour’s house". Brilliant.

Veterinari · 24/07/2018 17:49

Actually ILikeSpringRolls OP also said
They do play outside her house. Our front door opens onto a steep hill and they play on the road below where my friend and their friends live and they and I can watch them.

I.e. she prefers them to play outside her neighbour’s house and encourages them to do so, despite knowing that they scream and kick balls against the wall.

OneStepSideways · 24/07/2018 17:50

you are supposed to be working from home then young kids should have proper supervision, holiday club or being looked after by somebody else

I agree with this completely!

There are lots of holiday clubs, sports clubs, childminders etc available in the holidays. If you're busy working and can't supervise then you pay someone else to do it or enrol them in a holiday scheme.

PersianCatLady · 24/07/2018 17:55

have you ever had to combine childcare with working from home?
You cannot properly work from home and care for three kids at the same time.

Working from home is exactly that, working. This is exactly the reason employers don't like accepting requests to work from home from people who have young children.

mikado1 · 24/07/2018 17:56

www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/where-do-the-children-play-annoyed-resident-letter-sparks-debate-1.3569134?mode=amp

This is worth a read - a resident in a naice area of Dublin wrote a snobby letter to a neighbour!