Bloody loud kids in the communal pool all day, everyday.

[DavidBowiesNumber1]

We've recently moved into a new house on a small development - 20 houses, at present only 10 sold, of those 10 only 5 of us are permanent residents.
Not in the UK.
Up until about 3 weeks ago everything was peaceful, harmonious, pretty idyllic. Then the "holiday homers" arrived.
Now, out of the 5 nonresident households, 3 have lots of children ranging in ages of about 1 to 13 years old. Approx' 9 children between them but every day there are friends arriving to spend the day (and sometime night) at the pool.
Now I'm all for kids enjoying themselves and its lovely to see them doing something other than sitting indoors in front of a tv/tablet/phone/games console but AIBU in thinking that the parents (who are rarely at the pool) should A) be keeping an eye on them and B) be telling them to hush down a bit?
All we can hear from morning 'til night (up to 12.15am this morning) is the children shouting, screaming, jumping in the pool etc.
It's incredibly hot here (40c+ in the day, never dips below 32c at night) so all doors and windows are open therefore the noise carries everywhere.
If we want to use the pool we have to dodge bombing children/passing li-los/random balls and floats along with said 'DC'.
We would just like to enjoy our downtime and relax. Is that too much to ask?

If there is a collision it is going to be because a kid has just dive bombed on top of them without checking whether anyone was there. HUGE risk of this happening.
In fact this has happened to me in a hotel/leaisure club adults-only pool (it had a separate kid's/splash pool) - I was swimming lengths, not fast, and with my eyes open when a boy of about 8 or 9 ran down the poolside along where I was swimming and flung himself in, directly in my path. Parents thought I should have somehow avoided him but I had absolutely no chance of doing so. Twats.
This is what happens - collisions occur and can be dangerous. (luckily no serious injuries in this case, but I had a sore shoulder where hit hit me)
On another occasion, several people were swimming lengths in the adult pool when a mother got in with her baby in a flotation device (complicated ring arrangement) . The baby looked to be around a year old. She started swimming lengths having left the baby in the water at one end of the pool, but of course, it didn't stay there and drifted into the path of one of the serious swimmers. There was an unfortunate collision, baby wailing and furious mother. But really it was an exceptionally stupid thing to do.
This is what happens when people think the rules do not apply to them.

If there is a collision it is going to be because a kid has just dive bombed on top of them without checking whether anyone was there. HUGE risk of this happening.
In fact this has happened to me in a hotel/leaisure club adults-only pool (it had a separate kid's/splash pool) - I was swimming lengths, not fast, and with my eyes open when a boy of about 8 or 9 ran down the poolside along where I was swimming and flung himself in, directly in my path. Parents thought I should have somehow avoided him but I had absolutely no chance of doing so. Twats.
This is what happens - collisions occur and can be dangerous. (luckily no serious injuries in this case, but I had a sore shoulder where hit hit me)
On another occasion, several people were swimming lengths in the adult pool when a mother got in with her baby in a flotation device (complicated ring arrangement) . The baby looked to be around a year old. She started swimming lengths having left the baby in the water at one end of the pool, but of course, it didn't stay there and drifted into the path of one of the serious swimmers. There was an unfortunate collision, baby wailing and furious mother. But really it was an exceptionally stupid thing to do.
This is what happens when people think the rules do not apply to them.

Agh! Apologies for the (long) double post.

What kind of IDIOT would leave their baby floating while they go off and swim lengths?!

Yep, they broke the mould after that one ( I hope).
Everyone was truly shocked. But this Mum couldn't see it at all - it was someone else's fault entirely!

What if another irresponsible parent’s child had dive bombed on top of her baby while she was at the other end of the pool?

Tarty last year in my Spanish communal pool the EXACT same thing happened, a mother left her baby to go off and swim in a ring thing, probably less than 1 Still in nappies. This was in the adults pool and not the baby pool.

I have never seen the life guard run and dive in so fast. He saved the baby and the mother got asked to leave the pool. He was FURIOUS.

OP I thought of you last night. At midnight children were still kicking a ball loudly outside, then the fiesta started and went on until 5 am.

DD and I are on our last legs today and it is 30 degrees.

Tartyflette & WendyCope I thought I'd seen some pretty stupid examples of bad/non patenting but that takes the

agedknees We're pretty much used to the heat, well my husband is very much used to it, as he has always lived here but I can cope. I'm not saying I like it, or that I'm not counting down the days until September though

Its been all quiet on the pool front the last 2 days, the ones with kids have been out a lot of the time

That’s great to hear op, they’ve maybe finally ventured on some excursions after all! Let’s hope their family day outs last! Enjoy your peace and quiet.

Enjoying a cold beer on the verandah listening to the birds tweet and the gentle buzz/hum of the wildlife.....bliss

So pleased for you DavidBowie

I'm having a VandT. I do not know what tonight will bring though. I have entered full holiday season here! Got my earplugs at the ready!!

I might take up lap swimming or whatever it's called!! I've heard it's very dangerous though.

I might take up lap swimming or whatever it's called!! I've heard it's very dangerous though Ooh, extreme sports! I've heard that causes fright!!

Someone swimming in a pool such as the one the OP is describing is probably going to be doing a gentle breast stroke with their head above water and perfectly capable of seeing what is in front of them and stopping if necessary.

Then what's the problem, LoveinTokyo?

You see what is in front of you. You stop when someone innocently floats into your path. You can see the kids cannon balling and govern yourself accordingly.

The problem is that the adult breast stroking is up themselves to such an extent that they believe they have more right to use the pool for their preferred exercise than the children do. This results in the following piece of cognitive dissonance -
If there is a collision it is going to be because a kid has just dive bombed on top of them without checking whether anyone was there.
Here the adult who is perfectly capable of seeing what is going on all around and taking action to avoid the diving child keeps going regardless. The adult, given adult brain power and adult powers of observation, is also capable of anticipating or even observing the behaviour of children yet still does her breaststroking within jumping distance of the side of the pool instead of further out in the water. Then blames the witless child and huffs and puffs about bad behaviour of children, and feckless parents.

The anxiety about children's normal behaviour, and fear of being dominated by children (in an environment designed for both children and adults to have fun and at a time when no particular use of the resource is favoured mind you) is a very British problem based on the idea that is also behind the contention that children should be seen and not heard - i.e. that adults and adults' needs should always take precedence and it is important for adults to guard their turf against children at all times.

So we see the pearl clutching about shrieking. Shrieking happens when normal children are having fun in a pool.

Tartyflette's post perfectly illustrates what can happen when swimmers plying a straight line, whether doing laps or lengths or whatever, do not pay attention to what is in front of them. This is not to excuse the stupidity and negligence of the mother who left a baby in a floatation device alone in the pool. The baby could equally have been some child of 7 or 8 (or anyone else for that matter, even another adult) enjoying the pool without eyes in the back of their head and the swimmer not looking where he or she was going. Clearly the person who ran into the baby in Tartyflette's pool was not doing the breaststroke, and clearly not everyone swimming is going to be able to see ahead of them.

Of ffs math, just give up. You're flogging a dead horse mate.

Also coming across as a massive tool. Bore off please.

I was responding to a post by LoveinTokyo that was addressed to me.

I know you started this thread and all, but it's unreasonable of you to try to tell me what I can and can't do on a public forum.

Though I see that you are one of the people complaining about shrieking, so I suppose some of that post was to you too.

I presume you've never jumped into water that feels a good deal cooler initially than the air temperature (40 degrees iirc) and let out a shriek...

I'm just at someone up thread saying their electricity was 90 euro a month. Is that right?! I'm in Australia and our electricity was $1200 last quarter. Google tells me that's 759 euro.

Our electricity in Spain was 270 euros (pre air con). In the U.K. it’s £330 for gas and electricity a quarter.

Yours seem a lot itwas.

Itwas, yes we are screwed on electricity and it is mind boggling when you here how little others overseas pay. A fellow Australian here and ours ranges from $1300-1500/quarter so similar to you. Modest house, certainly not some mansion with cathedral ceilings. Electricity companies are thieves here.

Sorry, should say thats’s just electricity. Gas is on top of that but not as deer, around $150/quarter for us.

It was me. Wouldn't 90 x 4 be more what you mean? It is 90 euros a month.

In winter it's 40 euros a month.

I have a special plan and just put it on (air con washing machine etc) during those hours.

I think it's a lot for me and DD only. Don't need heating in winter.

@WendyCope yes but it's still 253 euro a month equivalent.

We are getting absolutely robbed for electricity here. We have gas on top of that cost.

@HoppingPavlova yes same, 3 bed house. $600 a week in rent, barely a backyard. Always going around switching things off, worrying about the cost. It's no wonder elderly people on pensions suffer through summer and winter, unable to use their heating or cooling.

Sorry for the thread derail op

Itwas Ah, I see, that is a lot.

Don't worry about derailing the thread, it needed derailing at that very moment! Sure DavidBowie is pleased!

math I am a lawyer who reads boring 100 page contracts for a living and I can’t make it to the end of your posts without losing the will to live.

You think that if a child dive bombs on top of an adult who is minding their own business swimming in the pool, it is the adult’s fault for not moving out of the way, regardless of the circumstances. (Even if the adult is 85, I assume.)

You’re wrong, and unreasonable. Just do one, you’re boring everybody with your dogged, rambling, nonsensical essays.