Bloody loud kids in the communal pool all day, everyday.

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We've recently moved into a new house on a small development - 20 houses, at present only 10 sold, of those 10 only 5 of us are permanent residents.
Not in the UK.
Up until about 3 weeks ago everything was peaceful, harmonious, pretty idyllic. Then the "holiday homers" arrived.
Now, out of the 5 nonresident households, 3 have lots of children ranging in ages of about 1 to 13 years old. Approx' 9 children between them but every day there are friends arriving to spend the day (and sometime night) at the pool.
Now I'm all for kids enjoying themselves and its lovely to see them doing something other than sitting indoors in front of a tv/tablet/phone/games console but AIBU in thinking that the parents (who are rarely at the pool) should A) be keeping an eye on them and B) be telling them to hush down a bit?
All we can hear from morning 'til night (up to 12.15am this morning) is the children shouting, screaming, jumping in the pool etc.
It's incredibly hot here (40c+ in the day, never dips below 32c at night) so all doors and windows are open therefore the noise carries everywhere.
If we want to use the pool we have to dodge bombing children/passing li-los/random balls and floats along with said 'DC'.
We would just like to enjoy our downtime and relax. Is that too much to ask?

Yes. Also backing away slowly from maths. Clearly just wants to be goady for the sake of an argument, no point trying to find common ground with that one.

Well said Maths.

It is noisy. Not necessarily dangerous. Noise does not hurt anyone.

This not a British resort where noise at midnight means drunks fighting and falling around the place.

An adult otoh, swimming lengths in a pool where there are lots of other people could easily cause injury to someone else, including injury to a child (or the fright of being knocked underwater). You would need to be quite a strange person to refuse to adjust your expectations of exercise in a situation where children are using a pool.

Please explain to me why ashtrays and drinks are a no-no around a pool, WendyCope. Maybe you can shut down half the hotels in Las Vegas.

Why would you do that, LoveinTokyo?
What if they were crowding someone else if they moved aside? Let's say they crowded a mother with three year old twins in armbands trying to ensure her children had a good time in the water.
How would the adult decide what lane was suitable for swimming if the pool had quite a few people there and they were fairly evenly dispersed? Just jump in and hope everyone paid complete attention to him or her?
What if another adult decided to use the opposite side for swimming lengths, and a few others then joined the fun, each in his or her own lane - how much moving aside is ok to ask of the children?

The idea that serious swimmers should be allowed to horn in on recreational users at public swimming times is ridiculous.

Why do you keep talking about serious swimmers? I'm talking about adults and young people who want to have a swim on a hot day when they're on holiday, not adults who are undertaking training for the olympics. How can you possibly think you have a valid point, to say that a child or adult who wants to swim in a pool without having a ball or leaping child land on them is unreasonable and dangerous?? You are either goady or a whack job.

Going to bed. I think I live in a parallel universe.

The pool is for everyone to use safely.

The bottom line is safety, not getting in X number of lengths regardless of how many people you could knock into.

I am not a dick either, and therefore I swim at 6am.
Children have the right to fully enjoy what their parents paid for without having to constantly stay on the lookout for dicks bearing down on them doing the Australian crawl.

whack job this has got hilarious. they are drunk I think!

Smoking at pool is particularly unpleasant especially with dc around

I was giving this some
Serious thought tonight while we were at the pool (should clarify, am currently on holiday, in a complex not dissimilar to how OP is describing her new home).

The pool here is small. Similar rules apply, no inflatables, food, balls. Diving/jumping in is allowed. A small section is shallow, for toddlers and babies. The five families who were there tonight, there were 5 toddlers, and 7 kids aged between 5-13. Two families had one adult there, two had two and one family had three. No one was behaving in an outlandish manner, everyone was chatting, Swimming, playing. No shouting but odd shrieks of joy. No need to shush any particular individual BUT collectively a general buzz that you can expect with a gathering. Everyone interacts considerately, with care and is overall pleasant.

(There are ashtrays out for smokers and people have water bottles with them).

I genuinely cannot see anything that is wrong with this situation. There are no lazy parents with low standards. Everyone is interacting with their kids, and everyone is having fun. No more noise than a bunch of adults gathering and chatting/laughing having fun.

Do you not understand about pool, no lifeguard and drowning, children and midnight? Bit of glass thrown in maybe? You are a dick I am afraid.

Why do you keep talking about serious swimmers? I'm talking about adults and young people who want to have a swim on a hot day when they're on holiday

Because those people are serious swimmers. Not Olympic athletes - there is a huge difference obv. I swim at 6 after all...

They are people who should use the pool when it's not being used by small children or other people who just want to float around, jump in, play ball, learn to swim, hold onto the side and kick their feet...

If you insist on swimming in a pool where you are likely to be hit by a ball or jumped on by a dive bomber then you are clearly insisting on swimming in conditions that are too crowded for that particular use of the pool, and you are very strange indeed to think everyone else should move aside to accommodate you.

if your idea of a good holiday is having one swim at 6am and then not using the pool for the rest of the day then I'm glad we don't holiday together. I'm also glad that the children in my life are being raised to be considerate of others, even if that means, gasp! not throwing a ball around in a pool or leaping in. The poor kids I wonder if they will need therapy when they are older to help them deal with this deprivation.

So by your argument if there are people, adults and young people included, already in the pool when the more boisterous pool users arrive, the boisterous ones should just sit by the side and never get in the pool? Because by your logic that's more rational than just making space for each other and being considerate??

Just start smoking a crack pipe and shooting at kids with a water gun
And occasionally shouting
SOME ONE HAS JUST SHIT IN THE POOL
that’ll learn them

@woodhill smoking full stop is horrid. I hate it. But you can't police it in countries where it is accepted.

And constantly SMOKE

And be naked

Basically just annoy them as much as they annoy you.

Do you not understand about pool, no lifeguard and drowning, children and midnight? Bit of glass thrown in maybe? You are a dick I am afraid.

If you read the OP's posts you will find no mention whatsoever of a lifeguard, so maybe it's safe to assume that there is no lifeguard at this pool at all. So it possibly makes no difference from that pov when the children use it.

No mention of glass thrown in either. That is just you making stuff up.

There is a rule about no glass/ceramic bottles and ashtrays, and apparently nobody has been hurt by any of those items, which would be brought there by adults presumably (supervising their children in an unacceptable forrin way). Maybe they bring their glasses and ashtrays back to their homes with them when they go indoors?

If there is no 'no smoking' rule, then it's unreasonable not to allow ashtrays by the pool.

My pool is busy right now, however it is my pool, so my rules and my cleaning etc schedule. It has quite a few young people having fun in and around it and if I had neighbours they might find them noisy.

They are having fun which they couldn't or didn't want to have earlier today when all they wanted was shade and a fan and a book or snooze.

The mosquitoes are kept off by flambeaux which burn citronella oil, is this something else you would disapprove of?

I am afraid you were being a bit optimist about human nature when you assumed that the children of professionals would be civilised or, at any rate, supervised.

My DH and I learned, when we mortgaged the grannies to send the kids to decent preps, that professional and/or rich parents do not think they are getting their money’s worth if their offspring are not incommoding the hoi polloi.

I can't believe it's over 40 degrees and you don't have air conditioning. Wtf how do you live comfortably? It's 44+ where I live now and air con is essential. opening the window won't make a difference when it's that hot.

Sorry I'm sure the threads moved on but I just felt the need to express my surprise at no air con !

I am suggesting there comes a point where moving aside causes unsafe conditions, Harridan.

How many lap swimmers can one pool safely accommodate along with recreational users before there are maybe ten lap swimmers using 70% of the space and everyone else is crammed into a small, unsafe area.

After an early swim on holiday I like to visit the pool to just float around, do a bit of reading at poolside, dip in occasionally to cool down. Trying to swim again when the pool is crowded would be massively inconsiderate of me. Other people have the right to just splash around, have fun with a ball, jump in, belly flop, whatever.

My usual 6am swim is not me on holiday btw. I live near a public pool. I buy a season pass. If I go on holiday where there is a pool then early might mean as soon as the pool is open - at any rate before other people start arriving en masse. If there are swarms of people there as soon as it opens I don't try swimming.

I compromise! I still have fun! Everyone stays safe! I believe that as an adult it is important to model compromise and concern for the safety of others to children. I also believe it is my responsibility to ensure that I do not cause harm to anyone while in a shared resource. I do not expect children to carry this responsibility.

I don't know why some people on this thread believe that children having fun in a swimming pool should not be the default, and that the children should be the ones accommodating the adults. Swimming pools are built for fun and the occasional bit of swimming if conditions allow.

If there are no stated lap swim hours then it is safest to assume that all uses of the pool are considered equal, and lap swimming should not be tried if there are a good few other people there using the pool as they see fit.

Lap swimmers do not have the right to create hazardous or conditions in the water. Swimming as an activity does not confer any special rights to users of the pool. It does not trump any other use.

if its not a holiday complex then surely you could complain to whoever owns the housing estate or local council /enviromental department , i have the same problem with kids over the backdoor on their trampoline some kids & parents have no respect for their neighbours these days and think its the local playpark shouting and screaming from early morning till late a till night