Bloody loud kids in the communal pool all day, everyday.

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We've recently moved into a new house on a small development - 20 houses, at present only 10 sold, of those 10 only 5 of us are permanent residents.
Not in the UK.
Up until about 3 weeks ago everything was peaceful, harmonious, pretty idyllic. Then the "holiday homers" arrived.
Now, out of the 5 nonresident households, 3 have lots of children ranging in ages of about 1 to 13 years old. Approx' 9 children between them but every day there are friends arriving to spend the day (and sometime night) at the pool.
Now I'm all for kids enjoying themselves and its lovely to see them doing something other than sitting indoors in front of a tv/tablet/phone/games console but AIBU in thinking that the parents (who are rarely at the pool) should A) be keeping an eye on them and B) be telling them to hush down a bit?
All we can hear from morning 'til night (up to 12.15am this morning) is the children shouting, screaming, jumping in the pool etc.
It's incredibly hot here (40c+ in the day, never dips below 32c at night) so all doors and windows are open therefore the noise carries everywhere.
If we want to use the pool we have to dodge bombing children/passing li-los/random balls and floats along with said 'DC'.
We would just like to enjoy our downtime and relax. Is that too much to ask?

YANBU.
Not a lot you can do about the shrieking but for the grown ups to use the pool outside of the opening times is disgraceful. Hopefully all their costumes will disintegrate quite quickly and their skin and hair will get very dry due to getting in the pool when it has too much chlorine

Oh, and other rules being flouted and we will complain about (aside from the late use of the pool and the late night noise) is the "no glass/ceramic bottles, plates, ashtrays etc. of any kind around the pool". Or AIBU to expect that one to be upheld too?

What country is it?

Parenting styles are very different around the world.
British tend to have the kids be seen and not heard approach more than other cultures.

OP yanbu

I am constantly surprised at how selfish and inconsiderate some people are. Though some of the angry, self-entitled responses on here go a long way to explaining some selfish behaviours I see in real life.

There is a clear difference between children playing like children, and screaming constantly, particularly late at night.

Why does everyone think it's so black and white? You complain therefore you must be an awful intolerant person.

A close relative of mine is a now retired primary teacher. She despairs at how children now can't ever talk in normal voices, even in the classroom. They shout and scream. Trying to be heard over each other, perhaps emulating their loud parents.

People that are attacking you make my blood boil OP. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

If they are as truly live and let live as they appear to be (and who knows, they may not have the same carefree attitude if they were kept up all hours by screaming), then the answer would be to join them- don't have any consideration for noise levels, go for it, let kids run riot and scream. But no, we wouldnt do that because we are well-mannered considerate people.

it does state in the rules that children must be accompanied by an adultvat all times around the swimming pool

And they were. Until 12:15am. Different culture, different respect and expectations about community rules.

NoLongerAskedForID There's definitely a huge divide between the YABU's and the YANBU's on here. Personally I'm happy to be thought of as BU by those PP's as I wouldn't ever want to be like them.

If you all own, then tbh I think it's going to be even more difficult for you to get the changes you want. It will come down to "who are you to tell me what to do?" It doesn't matter what the rules say really. Even if you manage to get the rules mostly enforced (unlikely tbh), there will be such resentment against you.

There is a clear difference between children playing like children, and screaming constantly, particularly late at night.

In the UK, sure, in other parts of the world playing until late and night, and shouting and screaming, are a normal and expected part of the culture.

Children in my compound are often out until 2am on the playground having fun, especially during Ramadan. Do I complain? No. Because I know the culture and I knew what I was choosing when I chose a villa that borders the playground. People like the OP drive me insane because they come with their "seen and not heard" bullshit that simply does not apply to all kids and parents everywhere.

If you want peace and quiet in Asia/Africa/Turkey, don't buy a place where there will be kids.

We have family on an urbanisation in Spain (they live there FT). Older residents always give a wry smile when they hear prospective buyers exclaiming over the reasonable prices of apartments which are adjacent to the communal pools. They are cheaper specifically because most people who have any experience of living in such urbanisations know that these places will get the worst of the noise during the summer months.

Their urbanisation has very clear rules which were introduced after the first few years; there's a keypad lock on the gate to access the swimming pool and a list of the rules on a big board on the wall. No kids under 12 unaccompanied, no music players, no food, no inflatables apart from buoyancy aids for young children or non-swimmers, no diving or bombing. The pool is open 8am-8pm and outside of those times there is a chain and padlock on the gate to stop people from accessing it.

The keypad code changes regularly and is only given to those who are paying for the pool upkeep - as people who weren't were allowing access to holidaymakers who'd rented their apartments. They also have the pool maintenance chap wandering between the pools during the daytime to make regular checks.

It's perfectly possible to play in the water and laugh and enjoy yourself without screaming as if your life depended on it. The use of the pool is for everyone, not just children.

Stick earplugs in and walk around saying loudly "what!" Or "sorry dear?"
.....I like the plant-a-poo idea, but then I am a bit evil! 😈

YANBU OP, but there is a certain type of parent who feels that when they are on holiday they are on holiday from parenting as well. I get it - parents never get a break, oftent it's even more work parenting on holiday than at home - but that's part and parcel of having the little blighters in the first place.

It's clear from what you've said that they are not following the rules - kids unaccompanied, swimming after hours, breakables around the pool, etc. Unless you are to become the local enforcer you need to complain to the head of the residents association, homeowner's association, whatever you've got.

And if it's that hot, would you consider going away in the summer...my DH grew up in a popular holiday destination and he flatly refuses to go home "in season". And it's true, some (obv not all) the tourists ruin it in July and August behaving like louts and littering everywhere, fighting over parking and generally being entitled arses because they're on holiday.

Even if you manage to get the rules mostly enforced (unlikely tbh), there will be such resentment against you Its not just us though, other residents feel the same.

Just open your doors and holler "shut the f*c! Up!"

It's clear from what you've said that they are not following the rules - kids unaccompanied, swimming after hours, breakables around the pool, etc. Unless you are to become the local enforcer you need to complain to the head of the residents association, homeowner's association, whatever you've got That's what we are going to do.

And if it's that hot, would you consider going away in the summer. I'd love to, I hate July and August here because of the heat but unfortunately my husband has to work.

ResistanceIsNecessary That sounds like a good solution at that urbanisation.

Tinkobell

thehulk sounds like selfishness,lack of consideration and not abiding by the rules regardless of culture

Oh OP I give up with some of the attitudes on this thread.

I have another 8 years and then I can legally bugger off.

I called the police about something, it had been going on for 3 years, I reached breaking point to do this. Was told to buy earplugs, my neighbours could make as much noise as they wanted before 8pm. The point was, it was 10pm.

Luckily, my poor DD stepped in, different attitude then of course, she is 10 and Spanish.

I honestly am feeling pretty exhausted at living here, as I imagine you are. People with no experience of this should just STFU. I have a feeling you might have a journalist on here too.

woodhill I've given up responding to her/him. They think they've got all the answers and just because we don't live somewhere as awful as them then have nothing to complain about

woodhill so cultural norms that differ from yours are selfish?

WendyCope

honestly am feeling pretty exhausted at living here That's awful and I really feel for you.

I have a feeling you might have a journalist on here too Really? Name change time then for me!

I totally understand your frustration. In USA this Summer and kids enjoying pool but they did stop around 10 p.m. and that was time pools close. An attendant told someone off for drinking in pool as they filled cool cup up with beer and thought they were being clever lol

They think they've got all the answers and just because we don't live somewhere as awful as them then have nothing to complain about

Where did I say awful? I love where I live. It's wonderful to raise kids in a culture where they can actually be kids, and have fun.

I think the fact that you say awful, speaks volumes about you.

Yes when pool shuts at 1000 and it's upsetting others.

woodhill I really wouldn't bother to engage....