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To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

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bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 06:21

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

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Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 18/07/2018 08:13

Some of the comments on here are disgusting. I had a comment deleted the other day for using the word that rhymes with 'serfs', which a number of women on here actually use to define themselves yet MNHQ are allowing some awful comments on here to stay.

acatcalledjohn · 18/07/2018 08:14

Men are tougher and more violent. Women are small and weak. Simply not true.

What planet are you on?

Men have more muscle tissue than women, and are physically able to develop said muscle tissue more easily than women.

Men have a different hormonal make up to women, which affects aggressive/violent/gentle/kind behaviours.

That is fucking biology. DNA. Whatever.

Saying there isn't a difference is utter bollocks. I'm all for equality, but at least I'm a fucking realist when it comes to basic biology.

Yes, we can manage this somewhat through nurture, but there is only so much we can do with two different sexes. Men and women ARE different. If they were the same then we wouldn't have had to fight for equal rights for all these years.

Christ-all-fucking-mighty.

Ifyoukeepchanging · 18/07/2018 08:14

Of course women can commit rape. If its against someones agreement it's rape. Should be in a mans prison agree with u OP.

Amalfimamma · 18/07/2018 08:14

please do not report Booboobooboo84's post calling us bitches. People need to see tras mo, language and how far they are willing to go to push the twaw mantra on women.

During her time in the clink, she has been caught prostituting herself to fellow cons, using drugs and threatening to kill a female guard. She has been found with a knife and stabbed herself.

At her dangerous offender hearing, Desousa also admitted to having killed a three-year-old child at age 11, although he was never criminally charged.

This man deserves to be placed in isolation and never be allowed out

FermatsTheorem · 18/07/2018 08:14

Skarros: I've said a ton of times on here that there should be certain exceptions such as prisons and refuges, but there should be facilities where transwomen should be catered for. My point is that people will use this to stop the gender recognition act (which I support) as a whole.

Then you and I are broadly in agreement. For me this argument has always been about women's prisons, sports, rape crisis centres and domestic violence refuges. At the moment, the GRA allows us to entertain the polite fiction that legally in most circumstances transwomen with GRCs are to be treated as women, barring a few sex-based exceptions. And this is, as far as I'm concerned, fine.

What worries me is people like Boo trying to drive the legislative agenda to remove all gate-keeping so that any Tom, Dick or Harry can demand to be treated as a woman, regardless of GRC (which involves checks to make sure the person is genuine), and to remove all sex-based exemptions (see Boo's championing of convicted rapists of the penis-inserting variety in women's prisons).

That's why we need these threads. Not to demonise perfectly nice decent trans individuals (who are the majority of the trans population), but to make sure that in making reasonable accommodations for them, to make sure they don't lose jobs/housing/etc when they come out as trans, we also end up in the absurd situation where we place male-bodied rapists in prisons full of vulnerable women prisoners, or have male-bodied teenagers winning female races that carry the prize of athletics scholarships at college.

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 08:15

Skaross can you point us to these awful comments?

Do you mean the truthful facts where we correctly identify this rapist as male?

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Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 18/07/2018 08:15

Placemarking

UneMoonit · 18/07/2018 08:15

The thing that concerns me the most is how often this wild imaginary scenario of rapists self-identifying as women and therefore presumably getting access to women in prison etc. seems to be. I thought that was supposed to just be a scare story, yet here we are again.

Men commit crime, men need to OWN that crime, not say ‘oh it’s because they’re not real.

I would not choose to say this myself - group as a whole needs to own crimes of group... do you really think that's a principle you meant to endorse?

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 08:15

I can't stand posts like this, yes this person did a vile thing but using this one example to block rights for a group of people is just as bad as stopping campaign for minority ethnic rights because a black person did a vile thing, or stopping campaign for gay rights because a gay person did a vile thing.

It's interesting when people compare not wanting males in female spaces to tarring an entire ethnic minority with the same brush because a few people from that ethnic minority committed a crime. I totally agree that you cannot say that, for example, all Muslims are violent because of the actions of a few.

But nearly all terror attacks, sexual assaults, stabbings etc have one thing in common when it comes to the perpetrator. And it's not their ethnicity or their religion. It's their sex. And no one seems to ever notice.

So actually I think women have very good reason not to want men in their vulnerable spaces.

FermatsTheorem · 18/07/2018 08:16

Last sentence missing a "don't" but you get the gist.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 08:16

And added to that, women need to be able to call out a man when they see one. And someone who has raped a baby with their penis is absolutely a man.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/07/2018 08:17

Well if what Boo is saying is true about the private messaging. That’s terrible. Telling a woman she deserved to be raped is playing right into the hands of the TRA’s and acting as badly as them. Much as I called out the bullshit, individual attacks like this must not be tolerated and I hope the individual will be banned.

Amalfimamma · 18/07/2018 08:17

The records WILL NOT state that this person is female. It will show that they are transgender
The records will state he is a male. He was charged and jailed as a male, ided in prison and got gender reassignment surgery with taxpayers money

Candyflip · 18/07/2018 08:17

ifyoukeepchanging no not according to British law. I realise this is the WWW but this is a U.K. based website. It is just a fucking shame that Canada are being so regressive currently.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 08:18

Some of the comments on here are disgusting. I had a comment deleted the other day for using the word that rhymes with 'serfs', which a number of women on here actually use to define themselves yet MNHQ are allowing some awful comments on here to stay.

Could you give some examples?

CountersurfingPerf · 18/07/2018 08:18

If incarcerated for sexual/violent crimes the ‘right’ to transition should be forfeited. The fact that it isn’t basically rewards such abhorrent male behaviour.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 08:19

If Boo was messaged with that about deserving to be raped, then they need to also contact MNHQ and get that poster's ass banned ASAP.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 18/07/2018 08:20

Hsngingsroundtheportal if you go back through history it's most certainly not mostly Muslim. It's a fallacy created by recent times.

bigoldscaredycat · 18/07/2018 08:22

I’m sorry you were threatened that way Boo, that’s disgusting. I hope the poster is banned.

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Soubriquet · 18/07/2018 08:22

If people have really messaged you saying you deserve to be raped then please do contact MNHQ.

That is disgusting and no one deserves that

FermatsTheorem · 18/07/2018 08:22

Skarros that's exactly the point Hanging was trying to make.

shinyredbus · 18/07/2018 08:23

To anyobr who said this is a ‘woman’ - you are making yourself look very silly —stupid—

You cannot actually believe this is now a woman because he says he is. Come on! He was born with a penis, he raped a baby with his penis. He should be thrown is jail and the key thrown away. This man is vile specimen of mankind.

Hangingaroundtheportal · 18/07/2018 08:23

Hsngingsroundtheportal if you go back through history it's most certainly not mostly Muslim. It's a fallacy created by recent times.

I never said it was 'mostly Muslim'. At all. Mostly Muslim what?

Raven88 · 18/07/2018 08:24

If he went to a male prison I doubt he would of lasted long. Shame they don't have death penalty in Canada. When it comes to crimes like this you should be placed in the prison that matches your biological sex.

ghostyslovesheets · 18/07/2018 08:26

Boo you seem so concerned about the victim of this crime - you seem to have forgotten it's victimS plural

do you give a shit about the woman HE assaulted because HE had access to women in a female prison? HE is a violent offender - with a penis - HE is MALE

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