To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

[bigoldscaredycat]

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

An evil woman commits an evil act and is sent to prison where she assaults inmates. I think she would have assaulted the inmates irrespective of whether she went to a male, female or unisex prison.

He was legally and biologically a male at the time of the crime. The fact he had his dick chopped off later is neither here nor there.

This is a man and the only reason he claims to now identify as female is to get access to female prisons. It's self preservation because he'd be dog food in a male prison. Not because he actually feels female.

Person commits crime and is sent to prison where they commit assault. I think all this would have happened irrespective of whether or not the person called themselves a man, woman or 3 headed monster.

Why bother segregating prisons by sex at all then? Why not just have fully mixed sex prisons?

That views like mine affect their happiness. Because all they seem to want is validation but it isn’t ever going to happen because I could not stand by and agree that someone I loved needed to change their body. I think if you thought about it long enough, you would agree skaross there is nothing wrong with her body.

Skaross you and your family member are welcome to laugh at people who correctly state that you cannot change your sex and there is no science to support the idea of being born in the wrong body. If it helps your family member to laugh at facts, laugh away.

It doesn’t change the facts though.

Why bother segregating prisons by sex at all then? Why not just have fully mixed sex prisons?

Because women would not be safe from the genetically more aggressive sex, e.g. men.

Do you really need to have that pointed out to you?

Someone I love very much was sexually assaulted by an aunt as a child. He subsequently took his own life 3 weeks ago.

That is heartbreaking and I'm so sorry you've all been through such trauma.

If that aunt turned around and claimed they were really a man and that those horrific actions were part of 'his' forner existence as a female - so not part of who he identifies as now - then how would friends and family of the victims feel?

Because that's what so many victims and families face in court.

Because women would not be safe from the genetically more aggressive sex, e.g. men.

Do you really need to have that pointed out to you?

But putting men who 'identify' as women in prison is OK?

It does thanks and we will continue to do it. But hands up if out in public if any of you keyboard warriors would tell him to his face knowing it could impact on his mental health. Knowing about the times he spent recovering from 2 overdoses (one at the age of 7) and seeing his self harm scars. Because if you would that would make you a monster in my eyes.

I'm wondering how he managed a sex change in between being charged and sentenced?

And people who trans children are monsters in my eyes.

You commit a crime as a man you do the time as a man.

You commit a crime as a woman you do the time as a woman.

I don't see why that is so hard.

He was an adult when he transitioned

Skarossinkplungerridesagain

Do you think that your nephews right to be recognised as a man should go as far as the NHS stopping calling them up for smear tests? Because they are actually male? What if this happened and your nephew developed cervical cancer as a result?

Obviously none of us would set out to deliberately hurt the feelings of a vulnerable young person with MH issues, skaross.

But neither will we lie, because lying to spare feelings is what has got into this current mess.

ie she has female genitalia

Genitalia can’t change sex. This person’s genitals are male genitals because they are on a male person. They may not resemble the male genitalia they once were but they are male genitals. Surgery does not alter the sex of genitals. Just the shape of them.

Skaross you and your family member are welcome to laugh at people who correctly state that you cannot change your sex and there is no science to support the idea of being born in the wrong body.

But science doesn't support this... the brains of males and females are different and the brains of trans people more closely resemble the gender they identify with, rather than their biological one.

If someone transitions to being female, and their birth certificate can be changed so that it states they are female, then surely legally they are a female whether or not you think this is correct or not?

So I am all for trans rights and would never argue a trans woman is in fact a man. But in this case, the perpetrator was quite happy to have a penis when they were using it to attack a defenceless baby. They should have been sent to a male prison and denied the possibility to transition as in my mind they have forfeited that right when they committed their horrific act. Though maybe a simple brain would have revealed they are, in fact, a man who is trying to transition simply to have an easier time in prison or access to women there as I strongly suspect is the case.

He doesn't have a cervix hanging

Can you point out where science supports the idea of lady brain please. We don’t need to see yet another op-ed piece. Real actual scientific evidence would be great. —it just doesn’t actually exist—

What about if they have a heart attack skaross ? That presents differently in women and the treatment is different. Would you rather they die than tell the truth?

Fair enough Skaross

But then that begs the question, is a trans man who has had surgery to remove all reproductive organs, more of a 'man' than a trans man who hasn't? Do they both have the equal right to be recognised as men? Which would then go back to the smear test question.

The horrible bastard should've had his raping dick ripped off instead of surgically removed

Vile man.

Well if they present in a different way I would assume the medical professional would be able to deduce the background. Also it's in his medical notes. But I would standby what he wanted.

But science doesn't support this... the brains of males and females are different and the brains of trans people more closely resemble the gender they identify with, rather than their biological one.

Simply not true.

Neuroscientists cannot reliably tell the difference between male and female brains.

But science doesn't support this... the brains of males and females are different and the brains of trans people more closely resemble the gender they identify with, rather than their biological one.

I was under the impression that, whilst there are some characteristics more prevalent in male or female brains, there are not characteristics (beyond physical things like size or hormones) which could tell you for sure that one brain is male and the other is female.

When they say that trans brains resemble the brain of the sex they identify with, what characteristics are being studied?

@BastardGoDarkly

He was sentenced, then self died, then the Canadian taxpayers kindly paid for his surgery