To feel sickened that this man is being referred to in this way (WARNING UPSETTING CONTENT)

[bigoldscaredycat]

This man raped a three month old baby boy to the point where the baby needed corrective surgery.

He is now in a women’s prison in Canada where he has beaten up a female inmate.

THIS is where self ID leads. Men like this being incarcerated with women and their crimes being counted as female.

torontosun.com/news/national/feds-deny-paying-for-convicted-pedophiles-implants

www.newwestrecord.ca/dangerous-offender-in-b-c-loses-appeal-for-day-or-full-parole-1.23279132

Go on, Mumsnet, delete me for deliberately misgendering a male baby rapist.

THIS.IS.A.MAN.

Perhaps this story will illustrate why feminists are so up in arms about self ID.

I would love to see even the staunchest anti-women transactivist tell me that this person is a woman and that they belong in a women’s prison.

Sorry hanging you misunderstood me. I wasn't referring to that individual which is why I said 'some'

I've posted on MN before about my nephew, the depression and suicide attempts and I'm not going to let the acts of the depraved minority take away his rights.

Skaros
It does cause harm though - to women and children.
People believe in lots of things. I believe in science as it is evidence and not feeling based.

I've posted on MN before about my nephew, the depression and suicide attempts and I'm not going to let the acts of the depraved minority take away his rights.

What rights are you worried will be taken from him?

How can we even begin as a society to deal with male violence if we aren't even allowed to keep proper statistics on it?

His rights to be recognised as a man

Skaros - you refer to your nephew as a 'he' so I am confused as to what righrs you refer to?

How can your nephew’s body be wrong though skaross? They may feel dysphoria because of societal expectations of gender (very fucking common for adolescent girls) but why do they need to change their body and not society?

Cross posted!

I have to admit I'm not as educated on the subject as I should be but it seems everyone is so focused on the rights of trans men/women that the sick depraved people that would take advantage of those new rights are slipping through the cracks.

Booboo isn't it blatantly obvious that the MAN that raped a child took advantage of a loophole? That MAN was more than happy to have a penis until it meant him going to a men's prison. He is taking advantage of what has been an arduous struggle for many trans men/women and you are so focused on rights that you can't even see it.

You got your rights now maybe consider the rights of that baby, how will they feel when they grow up and find out the MAN that raped them was allowed an easy ride in a women's prison because of the 'rights' you so vehemently fight for?

Your nephew has the right to be recognised as a man until that right starts to affect other people. Which is the case of the OP it does.

fucking vile

My nephew was female, he is now male. He is an adult and a very happy one at that.

You asked for my view I gave it. And yes I do fucking dare say she’s a woman. Because she is. You don’t have to like it. But she is.

Behave yourself. You sound ridiculous. That person raped a baby with his penis. Basic biology tells you that women do not have a penis. Therefore that person is a Paedophile and a MALE. Hope this helps.

You are still being transphobic there skaross

And that baby's mother. A woman who strives to protect her child.
Victims also have the double insult of having to hear how those who raped and abused them using their penis and physical strength are a 'she' in court.
How is that humane (referring back to poster calling on us to be humane)?

If ever committed a crime he would expect to go to a male prison, which would make him vulnerable but he's OK with that.

Since I read that article my brain has tried to put to the side that this MAN raped a baby with his PENIS and that baby needed corrective surgery. Because its too horrific to contemplate.

That people are trying to argue that this MAN should now be recognised as a woman after what he has done, just because he says he is a woman, is so fucking fucked up I can't even.

while her erect penis was sticking out from the top of her trousers

Shall we be forced to say that the 'woman' raped the baby with 'her' penis?

THIS is why misgendering is gaslighting bullshit

An evil woman commits an evil act and is sent to prison where she assaults inmates. I think she would have assaulted the inmates irrespective of whether she went to a male, female or unisex prison.

The answer is to put her in isolation where she can't hurt anyone anymore. I dont see this has anything to do with tans issues, its just a violent sick person who shouldn't see the light of day.

Shall we be forced to say that the 'woman' raped the baby with 'her' penis?

Fuck that. I will NEVER say that. No matter what. The truth is the truth. Its HIS penis. Not hers.

Victims also have the double insult of having to hear how those who raped and abused them using their penis and physical strength are a 'she' in court.

Maria Maclachlan, who was punched in the face by a male TRA at Speakers Corner, was warned that she should refer to her attacker as 'she' in court.

Ironically, presumably this was after she had sworn on the Bible to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

No he's not. Your view and the views of others mean not one jot to him or us as his family. We've all worked really hard to get him to a place where he can just laugh at views like yours.

Could I just clarify that @Gaspodethetalkingdog is not me? I can see this causing confusion.