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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

Previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3295445-Our-list-of-allies-grows-thin-Our-list-of-enemies-grows-long-Trump-thread-continued

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Charolais · 25/07/2018 06:28

Not long ago there were people on here that actually believed Trump was going to nuke North Korea and were actually scared to death.

The Democrats are not going to be in the majority this fall, because America does not want what they are offering. That means there will be no impeachment hearings and Democrats will never be in the majority again unless they get back to their roots.

In the real life Trump has a lot of support.

MissSusanSays · 25/07/2018 06:43

Umm Charolais

Haven’t the Republicans lost almost every special election called since Trump’s election? Even in red states- a la Roy Moore.

BolleauxtoBankers · 25/07/2018 07:08

Feck.
Rachel Maddow - WH edits Putin support for Trump out of transcript

TheClaws · 25/07/2018 07:17

Charolais No one was “actually scared to death”. If so, they would be dead. I do think, with someone as unstable as Trump, it was reasonable at the time to somewhat concerned for your future safety, particularly if you live closer to the Korean Peninsula than many (as I do).

Anyway, I’m interested to know how you feel about Trump now - he’s had a few hiccups, right? Does that bother you at all? I actually don’t think Trump has that much support left any more, except with mouth breathers, racists, and evangelicals.

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Lweji · 25/07/2018 07:32

"Trump's current lead defense attorney, Rudy Giuliani, insisted that Trump actually said "don't pay in cash" on the recording. During an interview with Fox News opinion host Laura Ingraham, Giuliani said, "There's no way the president is going to be talking about setting up a corporation and then using cash, unless you are complete idiot.""

Well... That's not a solid defense for Trump. Or Giuliani. Or Cohen.

read.bi/2LLCp2Q

TheHulksPurplePanties · 25/07/2018 07:33

In the real life Trump has a lot of support.

That's going to disappear pretty damned quick if the economy tanks due to his tariffs. His support was because he promised jobs, not falling meat prices and lay-offs.

Lweji · 25/07/2018 07:40

Democrats will never be in the majority again unless they get back to their roots

Isn't it what they're doing? Local protests against Trumpdontcare, new fresh candidates coming forward, etc

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 07:56

Stephanie Ruhle
@SRuhle
The takeaway from the Ivanka Trump Brand announcement -
Ivanka and Jared are definitely staying in DC
mobile.twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1021808097281626114

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 07:59

@RobertMaguire_
"Just stick with us. Don't believe the crap you see on these people. the fake news." - Trump at the VFW event, pointing to the back of the venue
Replying to @RobertMaguire_
Here's the video: "Just stick with us. Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news."
mobile.twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1021808509774692352

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:00

Stephanie Ruhle
@SRuhle
There are THOUSANDS of restaurants in NYC
What are the odds Cohen & Avenatti “ran into” one another?
Jim Acosta
@Acosta
Michael Avenatti confirms he and Michael Cohen ran into each other at a NYC restaurant Monday night. Avenatti declined to say exactly what they talked about but described their meeting as "productive," adding it "could ultimately end up being a critical" @VanityFair also reported

mobile.twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1020362816337989632

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:06

Lots more results of current polling on Mueller, Putin, NoKo, hunting witches @QuinnipiacPoll.

@QuinnipiacPoll
Republicans stand out as the only group believing #PresidentTrump’s double negative explanation (link: bit.ly/2LJcfgZ) bit.ly/2LJcfgZ TABLE #Helsinki
mobile.twitter.com/QuinnipiacPoll/status/1021847487240318976

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:11

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
In light of @ChrisCuomo getting hold of the audio NYT reported on on Friday, re-upping this story from May about Trump knowing months in advance about Stormy payments and Weisselberg knowing
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1021965274180870150

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:16

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
“Believe me, folks.” Trump “ has shifted from blaming American institutions for a bad relationship with Russia to telling people not to believe the facts of what they have seen or heard.”
'Spotting CNN on a TV aboard Air Force One, Trump rages against reality'
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/us/politics/trump-putin-cnn.html#click=t.co/MO61GFsBG1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/us/politics/trump-putin-cnn.html#click=t.co/MO61GFsBG1
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1021928060734586881

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:18

@katierogers
NEW - Got ahold of an email that shows POTUS causing a scene over Air Force One TV channels (FLOTUS’s was tuned to CNN, a no-no). Illustrates how his force field around the outside world has grown since Helsinki. W/ @maggieNYT
Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Trump’s unreality bubble holds, grows ⁦**@katierogers**⁩ and me (link: nyti.ms/2mFUioD?smid=nytcore-ios-share) nyti.ms/2mFUioD?smid=n…

mobile.twitter.com/katierogers/status/1021919594188034048

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:19

Tommy Vietor
@TVietor08
This is how you interview @seanspicer or any former official trying to get rich off this WH.

@RobertMaguire_
BBC interviewer to Sean Spicer: "You have corrupted discourse for the entire world by going along with these lies"

mobile.twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1021972878156161024

Gumpendorf · 25/07/2018 08:21

Amazingly patronising but go Rose ...
I hope the new young voters will realise they have the opportunity to make a real difference this November.

www.teenvogue.com/story/pennsylvania-gubernatorial-candidate-scott-wagner-called-me-young-naive

Across. I agree he's setting it up to look like the Dems are fixing the election with Russian help. It will add credence to his 'it was the Dems that colluded' narrative for 2016, and give him the reason either not to accept the midterm results and paint Dems impeachment proceedings as illegitimate.

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:25

‘What do we think about Mick?’: Trump narrows down chief search.
It’s not clear when John Kelly will leave his post as the president’s top aide, but budget head Mick Mulvaney has emerged as a leading contender.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/24/trump-mulvaney-ayers-chief-739543

PerkingFaintly · 25/07/2018 08:26

Ha, I just knew it would be Emily Maitlis! She was the one challenging Scaramucci (while he pawed her Envy) in an interview last year.

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 08:29

'Burr breaks with Nunes: 'Sound reasons' for judges to approve FISA warrant'

'Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr told CNN Tuesday he believed there were "sound reasons" for judges to approve the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page, in yet another break between the Republican leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees.

"I don't think I ever expressed that I thought the FISA application came up short," Burr said when asked about House Republican memo alleging FBI and Justice Department abuses of the FISA process. "There (were) sound reasons as to why judges issued the FISA."
edition.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/richard-burr-devin-nunes-sound-reasons-for-judges-to-approve-fisa-warrant/index.html

PerkingFaintly · 25/07/2018 08:43

And I take back my comments about Newsnight giving Spicer airtime. He presumably thought he was there to plug his book; Maitlis had other ideas...

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 09:05

He pawed her?! Hope she gave him a good going over, Perking. I can't bear to watch the sleazy slimeball.

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 09:07

Colbert:

ohmymimi · 25/07/2018 09:13

More Colbert, with Ocasio-Cortez and McFaul: