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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

Previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3295445-Our-list-of-allies-grows-thin-Our-list-of-enemies-grows-long-Trump-thread-continued

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ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 08:53

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Don't forget: In March, Sam Nunberg told @AriMelber that he had been questioned by Robert Mueller about Trump's lawyers' payments to women.
www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/nunberg-mueller-team-asked-about-trump-lawyer-s-payment-to-stormy-daniels-1184117827775
mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1020483498510114816

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 08:56

No excuses. Permission to blame them:

@kylegriffin1
Fmr. W.H. official: "You have a lot of people who are just a bunch of small-timers and clowns, so when they fuck up a response, you almost can’t blame them because you knew what you were getting, you know?"
mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1020496081241747456

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 08:59

@SethAbramson
BREAKING NEWS: Giuliani Lied in Saying Trump Wanted to Pay McDougal With a Traceable Check; In Fact, He Demanded She Be Paid in Untraceable Cash
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
A source familiar with the recording told CNBC that, in fact, it was Trump who raised the idea of paying McDougal with cash.

The source also said that it was Cohen who told Trump they would use a check to pay her if they ended up making such a payment. link: www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/michael-cohen-recorded-trump-talking-about-playboy-model-payoff-report.html cnbc.com/2018/07/20/mic…

mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1020459265536995333

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 09:27

Quick, look, big shiny squirrel.
(And this is rich from one who doesn't know all the words to the Nat Anthem, maybe second offence and out should applying him.)I

@realDonaldTrump
The NFL National Anthem Debate is alive and well again - can’t believe it! Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 Commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!
mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020432499082702849

Gumpendorf · 21/07/2018 09:30

Thanks for the links. Lots of intrigue isn't there? It does seem as if there is a little crack in the Trump defences at the moment. It's as if you can't gaslight the whole world. Who knew?

It's not going to be pretty.

I'm struggling to understand the cruelty and incompetence with the separated families. And the indifference. It's truly frightening.

PerkingFaintly · 21/07/2018 09:50

Ahaha, that's a sign of desperation that he's trying to pivot to NFL! Grin Good good!

billysboy · 21/07/2018 09:55

for all the trump haters on here I will watch with interest when he gets re elected
The people that voted for him last time will vote for him again the democrats do not have a credible opposition

Gumpendorf · 21/07/2018 10:01

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-hears-from-the-dead-and-they-like-his-tax-policy/2018/07/20/716647b6-8c13-11e8-85ae-511bc1146b0b_story.html

Trump's wider audience

After a column of mine mentioned one of Trump’s conversations with the dead, I was contacted by Karen Park, a professor of theology and religious studies at St. Norbert College in De Pere, Wis. “My sense is that this is what passes for spirituality for Trump — a world where imaginary dead white people take an elevator to a heavenly penthouse where they look down on him with approval,” she told me.

Many of us believe in an afterlife or at least take comfort in thinking our departed loved ones are, in some form, still with us. But Park is suspicious of Trump’s self-serving “fantasies about happy dead people blessing his presidency and this country.” Such fantasies “make us feel good and require nothing from us at all,” argued Park, who specializes in American religious history.

annandale · 21/07/2018 10:29

Oh I agree Billy I think at the moment he will be reelected by another minority, particularly given the vast efforts made to suppress and gerrymander potentially non republican votes in the US.

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 10:58

Lest we forget, the Orange Oaf just lurves the uneducated and the feeling is so reciprocated.

www.elitedaily.com/humor/donald-trump-loves-poorly-educated/1396865

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 11:40

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back, 1976

TheClaws · 21/07/2018 11:42

The people that voted for him last time will vote for him again the democrats do not have a credible opposition

billysboy - we already know the Democrats don’t have a credible opposition - that would be called the GOP Smile

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ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 11:47

Ouchy, ouch Claws Grin

TheClaws · 21/07/2018 11:50

ohmymimi I think we caught one just above Grin Seriously, though, Trump plays on this continuously and such supporters don’t recognise it - as they lack the critical thinking skills, or the drive, to do so.

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lionheart · 21/07/2018 11:56

NYC is looking fine this morning. Smile

It is good that he is retreating back to the NFL.

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/398112-conservative-columnist-i-would-take-obama-back-in-a-nanosecond

This is scary: www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/07/20/indictment-targets-idaho-white-supremacy-gangs

ohmymimi · 21/07/2018 12:09

Maybe this would make a dent, Claws ? Or maybe, like cultists, and a lot of Brexiters, getting hit in the pocketbook and the resultant hardships (probably worse in the US than here), is a price they are willing to pay for those SCOTUS seats and keeping it white America First.

'Trump's new midterm threat: A trade war smacking voters.

Market analysts, industry experts and economists warn the economic fallout of the president’s tariffs could peak around election time.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/20/trump-trade-war-tariffs-midterms-2018-701466

Gumpendorf · 21/07/2018 12:17

"They have stopped bothering trying to explain [Trump] & really stopped pretending that they know what's going on or happening. It makes reporting really difficult because NO ONE REALLY KNOWS ANYTHING" - @jonathanvswan W/ @NicolleDWallace

https://twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1020446341242277888/video/1

MrHoolieswaistcoat · 21/07/2018 13:21

www.google.co.uk/search?q=pete+seeger+obama+inauguration&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari
I have deliberately avoided these threads for a while as I genuinely can’t cope with Trump and Brexit at the same time.
45 said during his election campaign that he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and he wouldn’t lose any votes.
I’m just sitting here with my jaw on the floor thinking what the fuck does this narcissistic psychopathic moron have to do for the GOP to act?
I made the mistake of watching Obama’s inauguration earlier and was literally moved to tears at how all that hope and tolerance can turn to a country bordering on Fascism in such a short time.
There really are no words. Thank you to all of you keeping these threads going. I know there are many lurkers out there who are really grateful for them.

SorrelForbes · 21/07/2018 14:27

I second that

PerkingFaintly · 21/07/2018 14:46

MrHoolie, Sorrel, Brew

Yep, know exactly what you mean. I only peek into the Westminsterenders threads from behind the sofa because I just can't cope with both.

They're obviously superbly informative, and I'm so grateful to the stalwarts who keep them going.

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