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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/07/2018 13:54

Good on Coons and Flake. It'll go nowhere of course, but at least the gesture has been made.

lionheart · 19/07/2018 16:15

Hope and Anchor ohmy or, anchor and hope.

Here, for example, is a lovely doc.

www.scribd.com/document/384216900/Mueller-list-of-indictments-against-Manafort#from_embed

ohmymimi · 19/07/2018 16:29

🍌 Republic:
Ryan Browne
@rabrowne75
First on CNN: President Trump's military parade in DC is expected to cost $12M according to US officials, nearly as much as the now canceled military exercise with South Korea, Freedom Guardian, which Trump called "tremendously expensive" & said cost "a fortune" (est. cost $14M)

@MaxKennerly
Replying to @rabrowne75 and @nycsouthpaw
It costs $1.2M annually to run (link: guideline.gov) guideline.gov, a prime medical resources of vetted best-practices treatment guidelines. It was just shut down for a lack of funding, but we're able to spend ten times that amount on a parade just for Trump?

mobile.twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1019674481286111233

ohmymimi · 19/07/2018 16:42

That's implausible deniability, Kirstjen:
@jimsciutto
Remarkable: DHS Sec Nielsen doubles down and says “I haven’t seen any evidence” Russian election interference was intended to help Trump, contradicting IC assessment #AspenSecurity
mobile.twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1019963780283871234

And this is just implausible:

@jimsciutto
DHS Sec Nielsen once again denying that family separation at border was result of admin’s implementation of zero tolerance policy. #AspenSecurity

AcrossthePond55 · 19/07/2018 16:48

I'd forgotten about that fucking parade. Honest to God, his desire to be a dictator is oozing more and more to the surface. Before long he's going to adopt a Ghadafi/Amin-style military uniform. But with more braid and medals. Lots more. And a biglyer hat with a huge brim. Just HYUGE with lots of stars (and more braid)!!

I'm sure he was a dictator as an employer so it only stands to reason that he thinks that's just what a leader is.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/07/2018 16:58

And if I were former Amb McFaul, I think I'd be getting my papers ready apply for asylum in Canada and planning a 'vacation' in Ottawa (or in Northern Minnesota. The US is already a pre-approved country for political refugees in the Canadian immigration system.

How do I know that? Because I researched it myself in January 2017.Wink No US citizen has been approved as a political refugee, but the mechanism is there.

Kinda 'Handmaid's Tale' isn't it? Americans needing to flee north.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/07/2018 16:59

Oops. Forgot the ')" after Minnesota Grin

billysboy · 19/07/2018 17:04

A few of you ought to get over yourselves , what are you going to cry about when trump gets re elected ?

PerkingFaintly · 19/07/2018 17:16

I think it's now 46 indictments against Manafort, if you include the obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice last month, although I'm rather losing track...

Roussette · 19/07/2018 17:18

A few of you ought to get over yourselves , what are you going to cry about when trump gets re elected ?

hahahahahahahaha

PerkingFaintly · 19/07/2018 17:21

In case anyone is trying to keep up, here are the 32 counts against Manafort filed in Feb 2018 in Eastern District of Virginia www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

And here are the 12 counts filed in Oct 2017 in DC (jointly with Gates): www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

lionheart · 19/07/2018 17:21
Grin
SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 19/07/2018 17:22

A few of you ought to get over yourselves , what are you going to cry about when trump gets re elected

School out for summer?

Lweji · 19/07/2018 17:23

Bless.

ohmymimi · 19/07/2018 17:55

Glenn Thrush
Glenn Thrush
@GlennThrush
As Trump unveils job training agenda today, which calls for a "pledge" to retrain 500k more workers, important to note: His first budget plan slashed WIOA (the main federal job training fund) by 40 percent.

Trump FY 2018 Budget Slashes Funding for Key Workforce, Education, Human Services Programs
nationalskillscoalition.org
mobile.twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/1019960653438734336

ohmymimi · 19/07/2018 18:44

'House votes to prevent IRS from punishing churches engaging in politics'

'It's now impossible for Congress and the White House to deny their objective: to politicize the trusted charitable nonprofit community by authorizing unlimited, unfettered and untraceable political money to flow through the nonprofit sector to benefit partisan special interests,” said Tim Delaney, head of the National Council of Nonprofits.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/19/house-irs-churches-candidates-politics-698319

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 19/07/2018 18:50

You can tell he knows everything about buying & selling property:

The new US Embassy in Jerusalem will cost nearly 100 times more than what Trump said

The new US embassy in Jerusalem will cost $21.2 million to construct. At a rally in Indiana in May, Trump spent 10 minutes telling the crowd how he had avoided spending a "crazy" $1 billion bid to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and claimed the US would only spend "$200,000 to $300,000" on the endeavor.

uk.businessinsider.com/how-much-did-the-us-embassy-in-jerusalem-cost-2018-7?r=US&IR=T

AsAProfessionalFekko · 19/07/2018 18:56

He mis-spoke. Or got the decimal point muddled. Or got confused with millions and billions, or dollars and shekels.

Either way, that's the least of the worries in Israel at the moment.

ohmymimi · 19/07/2018 19:00

Eeww, nasty Across

Lweji · 19/07/2018 19:08

The Resistance is manipulating Google searches.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/trump-idiot-google-images-search