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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

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lionheart · 18/07/2018 17:30

freebeacon.com/politics/obama-urges-women-politics-men-getting-nerves-lately/

'Former President Barack Obama said Wednesday he wanted women to get more involved in politics and social movements because men "have been getting on my nerves lately."

Speaking with young African leaders at a town hall event in Johannesburg, South Africa, Obama said men were "violent" and "bullying."

"Women in particular, by the way, I want you to get more involved," he said. "Because men have been getting on my nerves lately. Every day I read the newspaper, and I just think—brothers, what’s wrong with you guys? What's wrong with us? I mean, we're violent, we're bullying. You know, just not handling our business."

"So I think empowering more women on the continent— that right away is going to lead to some better policies," he said.'

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 17:45

I'm listening to Linda Gordon talking about this book now. Interesting how the KKK used the evangelicals to validate their propagada.
bilgrimage.blogspot.com/2018/06/linda-gordons-second-coming-of-kkk.html

lionheart · 18/07/2018 17:47

Fascinating.

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 17:58

This is one review. I'm fed up it's not on Kindle.
A must-read for anyone wondering over the last several months how we ended up as a countrywith the first African-American president not even a year out of officefacing a group of golf shirt-wearing young white men marching onto the campus of a prestigious university carrying torches and chanting 'Jews will not replace us" . . . . Gordon documents not only the mechanics of how the Ku Klux Klan roared back to power, both socially and politically, in the 1920s but why. The parallels between then and now, branding differences aside, could not be more evident. To say it one more time for those who wish it weren't so, the past isn't dead and it's not even past; and those who don't learn from it are doomed to repeat it. . . . Histories like Gordon's should help Americans understand the roots of these toxic ideologies, as well as the circumstances that help them flourish, in order to better spot them when they sprout.--Erin Keane

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:18

Jeff Zeleny
Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
President Trump speaks at the Cabinet Meeting today. Asked whether Russia is still targeting the U.S., he answers: "No." Video coming now on @CNN.
mobile.twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1019620142408400897

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:19

@jeffzeleny
Today:

Q. “Is Russia still targeting the US, Mr. President?”
Trump: "No." (shaking his head)

Last week DNI Dan Coats:
“Frankly, the United States is under attack.”
mobile.twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1019626230117789696

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:21

Manu Raju
Manu Raju
@mkraju
GOP skeptical about making translator at Putin-Trump meeting testify to disclose what happened.
Cruz: "That would be a terrible precedent to be pulling translators for meetings presidents have."
Thune says it's "highly unlikely" to happen and "not sure what this accomplishes"
mobile.twitter.com/mkraju/status/1019630010473295873

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:23

Natasha Bertrand
Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
DNI Coats: “Today, the digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack...[Russia] is the most aggressive foreign actor, no question. And they continue their efforts to undermine our democracy." (link: www.cnn.com/2018/07/14/politics/director-of-national-intelligence-dan-coats-cyberattacks-russia/index.html) cnn.com/2018/07/14/pol…
mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1019621432106606597

AsAProfessionalFekko · 18/07/2018 18:28

Why do they publicise president's doctor visors and check ups, but a meeting with another head of state that everyone is aware of (which isn't an official one, so no state secrets being shared) is secret squirrel?

A generation ago an American president having quietness with a Russian leader would have had people baying for his blood. Remember how the Russia and US were always on the brink of nuclear war in the 1970s and further back to the McCartney witch hints (which trump would be very well aware if as his dads/his old lawyer was up to his ears in this).

How times change.

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:28

Apparently, Kelly had leant on the light switch:
@kaitlancollins
This is how Kellyanne Conway answered when she was asked if John Kelly accidentally turned off the lights when Trump was speaking yesterday.

mobile.twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1019571613308776448

Roussette · 18/07/2018 18:28

Across yes it was PM of Montenegro that he shoved out the way then did his macho pose whilst looking like a complete tosser!

I use the GIF regularly on Twitter because I think it sums up 45 very well

AcrossthePond55 · 18/07/2018 18:40

I thought it was! Hope that PM managed to stomp on Scrotus' tiny little toes as he was shoved out of the way.

TBH I always thought there was an ulterior motive to that shove. I expect the PM must have challenged Scrotus during a meeting or something

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:41

Psst, we had noticed:
'As the GOP increasingly comes to resemble a personality cult, is there any red line—video tapes? DNA evidence? a war with Germany—President Trump could cross and lose party support? “Very doubtful,” say a dozen GOP members of Congress stuck hard behind the MAGA eight ball.'
www.esquire.com/news-politics/amp22131898/republican-party-trump-red-line/?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:45

Those Montenegrens are very touchy and aggressive, Across', even warmongers in waiting, one might be led to believe.

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:52

@Billbrowder
One of the other Americans Putin asked for in his quid pro quo with Trump in Helsinki in connection to the 12 GRU agents was Kyle Parker. @kyleparkernet is the congressional staffer who single handedly drafted the Magnitsky Act that Putin hates so much
mobile.twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1019599500032131074

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:55

@Billbrowder
Russian general prosecutor’s office wants to interview US special agents Hyman, Schwarzman and Angert, who were investigating Natalia Veselnitskaya’s Russian client for money laundering in the Magnitsky case as part of the Putin/Trump quid pro quo agreed in Helsinki yesterday
mobile.twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1019322947503362049

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:57

@JuliaDavisNews
Today, #Russia's state TV hosts are trampling on the seal of the DOJ.
Symbolism is a very important aspect of the Russian propaganda.
#HelsinkiSummit
mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1019224681218478080

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 18:58

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
NEW: Per @CNN, intelligence officials say Russia is ramping up its operations against the West, with a focus on more frequent & more aggressive cyberattacks, now that the World Cup is over.
mobile.twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1019577632814452736

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 19:03

Has anybody here seen Kelly?
K-E-double-L-Y
Kelly! Kelly! Kelly! Kelly!
Kelly's gonna get the can

@ShaneGoldmacher
The WH chief of staff lobbying the Congress to rebuke the president...is a genuine wow.
Gabriel Sherman
@gabrielsherman
Per 3 sources, Kelly privately lobbied congressional Republicans to rebuke Trump publicly for Putin presser, my latest:
(link: www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/the-west-wing-revolts-after-trump-embraces-putin) vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/t…

mobile.twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1019352547704954880

lionheart · 18/07/2018 19:18

talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/andrew-miller-mueller-closed-door-hearing

'Lawyers for Andrew Miller, a former Roger Stone aide who is fighting a grand jury subpoena in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, as well as at least five attorneys from Mueller’s team spent nearly an hour and a half Wednesday in the D.C. courtroom of Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell.'

lionheart · 18/07/2018 19:20

Josh Gerstein (Politico)

Verified account

@joshgerstein

JUST IN: Judge denies alleged Russian agent Butina's motion to appear in civilian clothes at detention hearing set to begin in a few minutes

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 19:27

I've just started to wonder if this was in Carlson's mind during his interview with the Orange Oaf? The Oaf would be oblivious of any element of the history of this, of course.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-plot-kill-montenegro-prime-minister-milo-djukanovic-overthrow-government-stop-joining-nato-a7588051.html

ohmymimi · 18/07/2018 19:32

Interesting Spectator post lion. I hadn't seen it before my last post!