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hubby says he has seen a ghost five times so far.

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lowresidue · 16/07/2018 22:21

Hubby has taken our dog to a local wood, and lets the dog go for a run.
He goes at different times and different days.
He came home and told me that he has seen the same woman ghost five separate times so far. Tonight with bonnet wearing woman made him jump when she popped up in front of him. When he said 'you made me jump', she smiled nodded and walked away from him.

He was quite serious but I asked why he thought she was a dead/ ghost? He said because she is wearing a long coat and a bonnet type hat.
AIBU to suggest that this woman isn't dead, isn't a ghost and is an odd lady with a strange fashion sense?
He is quite firm she is a ghost, and walks along the path but not on it though the trees.

personally I am glad we are going on holiday soon my hubby really needs it asap.
Then again AIBU?

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TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup · 20/07/2018 21:02

My daughter, when she was about 2 and a half, was in my sister's bathroom and said hello off to the side. My sister asked who she was saying hello to, dd replied "the man on the box....away" and pointed out the window. Sister freaked, yelled for us and was outside the bathroom when we got into the hall.

A few weeks later, sitting having breakfast, dd turned round and said "man on the box" pointing to her big toy box in our living room. I said oh OK and she smiled and returned to eating breakfast.

A few days after that I was looking through a photo album with her when she pointed to my grampa (died a few months prior) and said "man...man on the box".

Around about the same time, my mum had photos of family in her purse, as you do, and dd pointed to one of my granny (dead long before she was even born) and said "lady, in your room and the bathroom" to my mum.

dustarr73 · 20/07/2018 21:14

@headinhands its hard to explain but i will try.
We found a house to rent, went up to view it.The minute i opened the door i felt him.

We moved in, put my son in his room.He never settled.His sister used the room for storing her bags.

Heard a bang went upstairs and all the bags where poured out all over the floor.
Dp worked till late at night, went tp bed, woke up to hall door being opened.Went down a while later nobody there.

Having a shower, felt like someone was watching me through the wall.Like a peephole.Awful feeling.

My mam babysat and had someonr knocking on the front, middle and back door.Really banging knocks.

Before we left, the horrible atmosphere in the house was everywhere.Felt like so.eone was baring down on you.The top of the stairs was like walking through goo.Very hard to do.

Thats the gist of it.

AnxiousPeg · 20/07/2018 21:23

I've been thinking about this thread today and wondering why I tend towards the "ghosts might exist" point of view.

Could be that I'm gullible.

But in another way, I'm quite sceptical. That is, I just struggle to believe that so many people are experiencing so many sensory blips.

I just always believe my senses, prosaic as that might sound. I've never even fainted, let alone experienced any of the stuff people keep describing on here. If I see a person, I see a person- I just wouldn't be prepared to believe it was a tree or a trick of the light or whatever!

However, I haven't seen a ghost.

I'm 38. My experience of life has been quite straightforward. I mean, I've had some bad depressive episodes, some mental health issues, but everything has made sense on a sensory level. I don't think I'm unusual in this.

In that time, I do believe I once heard a ghost. Yes. I do think that. Only once. It was different from everthing else I've experienced. I wasn't expecting it. There was nothing Victorian about it. And no, I couldn't swear on any level that it was a ghost. Neither could it stand up to the sort of scientific investigations that Betrand is so fond of.

However, I must admit that I do believe in my own experience. And I trust my senses.

I know, on balance, that it does seem weird to believe in a ghost over the possibility of a sensory blip. Yes, I can see that. But there we are.

I guess I'm also swayed by a desire to believe in the supernatural. But I also think it's quite logical to assume there are things we can't understand. I feel it as a human. I know this will attract scorn from certain posters. But I can't believe we're just chemicals. Seems implausible.

Laiste · 20/07/2018 21:24

dustarr i can totally relate to the feelings you describe. You've described them very well actually!

Until and unless you've felt it it's hard to get across how uncomfortable and upsetting it makes life. Spending every minute forcing yourself to go physically into a place or a space which your whole ... base instinct ... or whatever you believe warns you of danger ... is screaming for you not to. It's exhausting and horrible.

Laiste · 20/07/2018 21:27

anxious no scorn from me, but i have to say - i'm swayed by a strong desire NOT to want to believe in the supernatural but it's not working for me Grin

dustarr73 · 20/07/2018 21:32

@Laiste thats it.You're forcing yourself to go in to the house.That man was so bad, i still dream of him.Awful

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 20/07/2018 21:34

At my very isolated house my dogs woke me up at 5.30am to go out.
I spotted 2 men walking in the near distance, completely oblivious to me, and the dogs (usually very reactive) took no notice.
The land was previously used as a brickworks and they were dressed as 19th century labourers.
I wasn't scared at all - it was just a natural phenomena, like seeing wild deer.
Best to keep an open mind about such things: "There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy", etc etc.

Laiste · 20/07/2018 21:37

Yes, it is awful.

Sorry if i've missed it but how did you know the presence was male? Did you feel it? Or were you told?

The one i endured was male. I could feel that. Strangely always high up. The sense of being watched from above head height. He/it was very very angry. Full of hate.

dustarr73 · 20/07/2018 21:50

Sorry if i've missed it but how did you know the presence was male? Did you feel it? Or were you told?

I seen him in my head.He never appeared to me.But i told dps mam, she lives across the road.And she told me that it was him.

bobstersmum · 20/07/2018 21:52

M31on, I have no words

Member745520 · 20/07/2018 22:55

dustarr - before we left, the horrible atmosphere in the house was everywhere.Felt like so.eone was baring down on you.The top of the stairs was like walking through goo.Very hard to do

In saying it felt like someone bearing down on you and about walking through goo you describe what I tried to put across in a much earlier post (long post page 6) about an entity in a cottage bedroom! Only I somehow knew this presence couldn't come beyond the doorway if/so I kept it shut. Also strangely when I tried to approach that bedroom window from the garden outside some kind of protective and invisible barrier prevented me a few yards back from the building. My experience was confirmed later by the people who had lent me the cottage for a holiday.

Ottybotty1 · 20/07/2018 23:14

Shamelessly place marking to read in bed!!

dustarr73 · 20/07/2018 23:23

@Member745520 im going to tell you something funny and outing.We had a goat in the back garden[dont ask.]And it was a mad thing.It kept looking up to the back bedroom window but wouldnt go past a certain point.Which i found weird.

MakeLemonade · 20/07/2018 23:30

I always enjoy these threads and think it’s hugely arrogant to assume we know everything about how the world works, life, death, energy etc. Seems highly probable there are other states of being than just alive or dead.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 21/07/2018 06:30

I’m always amused by the folk who are so adamant ghosts do not exist but happily go to church every week to listen to tales of rolling back water, resurrection and divine beings.

I’m not saying I’m an atheist, but as said upthread, there is huge arrogance unassuming we know it all.

I’m from quite a woo family in as much as both parents regularly saw ghosts. Less so now. We just accepted ghosts existed as one of the many unexplained wonders of the world

pictish · 21/07/2018 06:54

“We just accepted ghosts existed as one of the many unexplained wonders of the world.”

That’s nice for you. Just blindly accepting people’s apparent fantasies as real doesn’t do it for me. To each their own.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 21/07/2018 08:42

Well what I mean is we grew up knowing that our close relatives saw ghosts. We didn’t think it was odd. It just was.

It was only once I met some religious friends at uni I realised it was frowned upon and ridiculed by many.

FoodologistGirl · 21/07/2018 08:51

This one freaked me out. It’s on page 5!

coolncalm · 21/07/2018 09:10

I'm always amazed at anyone who says with such certainty that ghosts don't exist. I mean why the hell would you discount all the individual experience that people have had as just imagination or coincidence.

Imo it's because to accept and believe in the supernatural is to believe that there is a God, something to disbelieve at all costs.It seems to anger them that this might be so.

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 21/07/2018 09:33

Pictish, you insist that someone's factual reality (i.e, seeing a ghost or experiencing a presence), is a 'fantasy' - but how can you be sure they haven't?
Your assertion that those of us who have seen ghosts are fantasists is patronising.
Taking your comment to its natural conclusion how are you able to believe anything anyone tells you about anything?

AnxiousPeg · 21/07/2018 09:50

Or, indeed, how can any of us believe our own senses, ever? And yet we do...

AnxiousPeg · 21/07/2018 09:53

(By which I mean that at some point we have to believe the evidence of our own eyes and ears. It seems that some sceptics draw a fairly arbitrary line as to where that point should be.)

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2018 09:57

“Or, indeed, how can any of us believe our own senses, ever? And yet we do...”

Up to a point we do. But we know, for example, that our brains play tricks on us and our memory is incredibly unreliable. And our beliefs influence our perceptions to a huge extent.

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2018 10:05

For example, if somebody said “I saw a grey pony in the field down the road from you” I would say “Oh yes, she’s my dd’s childhood pony in retirement, she’s called Spirit and she’s 26 and lovely”

If someone said they saw a unicorn, I would wonder if they were dreaming, or saw said grey pony standing near a fence so some sort of optical illusion made it look as if she had a horn, or they were hallucinating, or someone had put a fake horn on her for a joke as we once did for a party.......The one thing I wouldn’t think was that there was a unicorn in our field!