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AIBU?

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AIBU to expect a photo from sports day to not be on FB

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KatKit16 · 13/07/2018 13:46

Sooo....today was DD first sports day. I have just returned and had a quick nosy on FB and a fellow Mum from DD years group has posted a photo of her child along with pretty much the rest of the class in (including my DD). AIBU to expect her to seek permission before posting ?
Part of me feels petty if I was to ask her remove it or at least the bit with my DD in and the other part of me is annoyed that I haven’t consented. I wouldn’t post pictures of other people’s children unless I had agreement. Thoughts please anyone....

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Grandadwasthatyou · 13/07/2018 17:06

Totally agree with other posters who are concerned about safeguarding.
This happened with the foster child of a friend of mine when his photo appeared with other children on Facebook and the repercussions were serious.

Put your own dc on social media as much as you like but leave other people's children out of it.

ladymelbourne1926 · 13/07/2018 17:10

I've had to contact so many people about this over the years, my dds are adopted and the risk to my eldest was high. I have never allowed a single photo of them on social media, in fact her school ended up imposing a no photo rule.
I always just explained, asked politely and people removed them or blacked out my dd which I was also fine with.
Even now at 20 my eldest doesn't have any pics on her social media, neither do I for that matter it's not hard to do really.

Gardenpicnic · 13/07/2018 17:16

You do NOT need a model release form unless you will gain commercially from another persons image- anyone else incidental to the image (background) you take doesn’t apply.

This is absolute rubbish. Schools don't gain commercially and they have to have written consent.

ReadingRiot · 13/07/2018 17:19

Schools often ask parents not to post things but it's impossible for them to police, if they have too many "issues" their only option is to ban photos altogether, which is a shame for everyone.

If this picture is a problem for you, please let ask her to take it down. I think it's generally accepted to be OK provided you don't name/tag people

TornFromTheInside · 13/07/2018 17:31

This is absolute rubbish. Schools don't gain commercially and they have to have written consent.

They contain commercially. Their website is a form of advertising, or can be interpreted that way. They need consent forms to minimise the possibility of legal issues.
A model release form is simply a contract, nothing more, nothing less but very wise to have if someone takes an image of another person and might end up using it commercially. Commercial gain does not have to be monetary, nor does it have to be a business who gains (e.g. a charity, or Scouts)

If the person is incidental, it's a grey area as this is a very subjective assessment. Being in the background of an advert promoting sex work might give the impression you are somehow involved. Being part of a football crowd promoting football is much less likely a problem.

TornFromTheInside · 13/07/2018 17:32

Gain (not contain) - typing via phone!

LilQueenie · 13/07/2018 17:32

Our school has forms to sign if you allow your child to be on their own social media. When it comes to assembly and sports events they allow cameras but ask that you respectfully don't post it on social media. I don't think they can do much else tbh.

RocketWoof · 13/07/2018 17:37

GardenPicnic I’m talking about photographers not school.

donutsarelife · 13/07/2018 17:40

Otis not allowed at our school. We have several looked after children who are not allowed to be seen, my daughter is one of them. I had a fall out with one of the parents last year because despite being told not to a Mum put pics up and my daughter was in them. I don't know who she is friends with on FB and I can't risk the birth family who are from the local area seeing pictures of her and putting her at risk. I would speak to the school

donutsarelife · 13/07/2018 17:40

*it is

RocketWoof · 13/07/2018 17:45

Donuts that’s so rude and disrespectful to you and your daughter

TeenTimesTwo · 13/07/2018 17:49

ReadingRiot I think it's generally accepted to be OK provided you don't name/tag people

It isn't generally accepted for photos taken in schools.

Totally unacceptable.

Notquiteagandt · 13/07/2018 17:55

Yanbu. Theres are laws against posting photos of children under 11 with out parental permission.

I am sure facebook report has "includes a minor" aa an option. So id just report it.

As others have said there is many many reasons why parents may not want photos identifying their childs school on fb.

A sports day photo is prettt identifying imo

TornFromTheInside · 13/07/2018 17:59

Theres are laws against posting photos of children under 11 with out parental permission.
Could you tell me what those are?

SugarIsAmazing · 13/07/2018 18:03

Notquiteagandt · 13/07/2018 18:05

@TornFromTheInside

There is specific rulings in data protection laws for minors and the weller vs daily mail case brought around a few changes as well I believe.

RocketWoof · 13/07/2018 18:05

Theres are laws against posting photos of children under 11 with out parental permission.

Can you send me a link please to these laws.

TornFromTheInside · 13/07/2018 18:06

Why does it matter if an adopted or looked after child's family sees them on social media? A lot of looked after children attend the same school that they always have so it's not like the family don't know where they go.
Many looked after children are escaping abuse, and their location should be kept secret. With social media, it can become easier to find the child.

A0001 · 13/07/2018 18:06

And a lot of LAC have birth parents actively looking for them who don't know which school they go to, but could find out easily through social media.

I don't understand your point?

Sirzy · 13/07/2018 18:10

And a lot of looked after children are very vulnerable sadly.

A lot of children may be escaping domestic abuse and them and their family could be at risk if identitied

It’s sad that some people put their right to post pictures of a stranger over children’s safety

TornFromTheInside · 13/07/2018 18:11

The Weller case was Paul Weller. Celebrities have slightly different expectations.
The ruling was not about age, but expectation of privacy and commercial gain. There is no law or ruling on the age.

Notquiteagandt · 13/07/2018 18:12

@RocketWoof

Data protection laws. Theres a big section in storage distripution etc of photos of minors. Specifically for minors.

Its clearly aimed more at photographers, schools, sports teams etc. But I ashume the basic principles still apply.

Data protection is slightly differant for minors. Theres a whole section on them.

Notquiteagandt · 13/07/2018 18:15

@TornFromTheInside

Yes that they made profit played a part. But the main issue was photos of his teenage daughters where put online with out his or their mothers permission.

RocketWoof · 13/07/2018 18:15

Daily Mail used those photos and the photographer/agencies would’ve been paid. So there was consent issues there. It’s a completely different scenario- a famous persons offspring as opposed to having Jonny jumping with a bean bag on his head next to my child.

Incidentally -I don’t post photos of other children on any social media.

RocketWoof · 13/07/2018 18:16

I think schools should just ban all phototaking.

So much easier then.

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