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To be glued to the news of the Thai cave rescue

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Zebraantelopegiraffe · 09/07/2018 09:34

Sorry if there has already been a thread

I just can’t stop watching - those brave, brave kids and the amazing people risking their own lives to get them out. When you see the news of all the awful things people do to other people, then a story like this comes along and it makes you realise how bloody fantastic people really are!!

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Justtheonequestion · 09/07/2018 21:58

I've been astounded by the attention given by the Thais to the mental health of the boys and their parents. Really impressive and an example to the world. They aren't going on about diagnoses, but instead trying to keep their minds well.
For somewhere the west see as 'less than' and poor, I don't think a developed country would have done better, whether it be USA, UK or Australia. Utterly humbling.

Prayers for the 5 left. Prayers to the coach. What an amazing culture where the people think highly of him because of how he loves the boys. Over here it'd be about the ONE thing he made a mistake with. Almost makes me want to leave the UK TBH.

Justtheonequestion · 09/07/2018 22:05

How awful that the press leaked the names of the boys before the Thais wanted them to. How fucking intrusive.
This instant twitter shit is to blame.
It has affected the parents whose children are still inside. How unfair, all so they could be the first to tweet. It's disgusting.
We live in a world where people need to own other people's experiences. Horrible.

CookieDoughKid · 09/07/2018 23:59

Absolutely fucking unbelievable one can even think of suing the coach. Like he hasn't suffered enough. He also lost his entire family when he was 10. And will continue to live with life long guilt. It's because of him the boys survived. Honestly, some the comments in this thread - is there no humanity in you? Let them live their lives free and let them live it to their fullest potential and not let the death of a Navy seal be wasted.

victoriaspongecake · 10/07/2018 00:15

Just donated....thanks for the link....here it is again in case anyone else wants it.....www.caverescue.org.uk/

eternalopt · 10/07/2018 06:50

Sounds like they're off again. Cross everything people. www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/24052896/rescue-efforts-continue-thailand-youth-soccer-players-trapped-flooded-cave

LanguidLobster · 10/07/2018 06:56

Yes the Thai people have behaved in an incredibly ethical and dignified manner.

I zoned out on reading about this at first as I winced and thought 'no chance' but then started watching in wonder as these highly skilled and organised professionals started extracting them to freedom.

Fingers crossed for today!

brizzledrizzle · 10/07/2018 07:05

Fingers crossed for more successful rescues today. They all, coach included, deserve medals and then some.

Gileswithachainsaw · 10/07/2018 07:08

Prayers for the 5 left. Prayers to the coach. What an amazing culture where the people think highly of him because of how he loves the boys. Over here it'd be about the ONE thing he made a mistake with. Almost makes me want to leave the UK TBH

I'm just in absolute awe over how they have dealt with it. Those kids are incredible. My nearly 12 year old hasn't even taken a bus by herself yet. There's no way she could have survived in a cave for 2 weeks.

When half of us can't even leave the house without our partners calling us over where something is or what to do. This 25 year old has looked after these boys 24/7 for 2 weeks in a weakened state having given up his shares of the food.

It's one hell of an achievment. Everyone must be so incredibly proud of them

Mindchilder · 10/07/2018 07:10

After reading about how difficult the dive is and how most of the boys couldn't even swim I am absolutely amazed that they have got any of them out at all.

Zebraantelopegiraffe · 10/07/2018 07:32

I read that the boys went in on there own (as the caves are open until July) and he went in after them. He is getting a tough deal the coach. He’s a bloody hero.

Hoping today goes well

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hackmum · 10/07/2018 08:20

Zebra: "I read that the boys went in on there own (as the caves are open until July) and he went in after them."

Where did you read that? Some of the comments on the Mail said the same thing but I haven't been able to find a source.

Lycanthropology · 10/07/2018 08:52

Hilarious Bartholin's Hmm

MissMatchedClaws · 10/07/2018 09:02

Thanks for the donation link above Hastings. I donated with PayPal and gift aid was a tick box option. Fingers crossed for all the boys, the coach and the divers today.

Zebraantelopegiraffe · 10/07/2018 10:55

Two more out Grin

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Lycanthropology · 10/07/2018 11:05

Fantastic news! Grin

ToeToToe · 10/07/2018 11:07

Gileswithachainsaw - I know exactly what you mean, I was having exactly the same thoughts about my own offspring.

Talith · 10/07/2018 11:22

It's a reminder how resilient human beings can be, and a chance to reflect on the strengths in cultures different from our own. God, I'm an emotional mess today. 11 out now!

WindyWednesday · 10/07/2018 11:24

I read that too about the coach. Can’t remember where. But I read that the coach realising the boys hadn’t arrived home, went looking for them, found them and kept them safe. I think he’s a hero.

ummnamechange · 10/07/2018 11:30

Hi - have name changed and given this to my DH to answer - he was in cave rescue for a few years and wants to add a few things.

Hi - we are all glued to this. Cave diving is by far the most dangerous thing ever, full stop. The fact that these lads are making it out is nothing short of amazing.

The things to remember are that all cave rescuers in the UK including the CDG (cave diving group) are volunteers. They willingly get out of bed at 2am on a cold wet night to get people out of caves. Why, because we know they would do it for us if we were stuck. In the case of a massive "shout" all the groups across the UK converge on the scene to provide help. The big caving clubs maintain lists of people within a couple of hours of the cave systems who can help out as well.

The chaps from the UK out there are volunteers also and are probably taking unpaid leave to be there and it is almost certainly all there own kit they are using. The two whose names have been mentioned are pretty much the world experts at doing this and have written the book on how to do it. Not that there is a book.

They will be operating in dive relays to move the boys through the sump and then handing over to escorts to bring them out. Dont forget it sounds like a 3 or 4 hour rough trip to get out from the flooded sections.

So if you are moved - do donate to the BCRC or your local cave rescue team. The money isnt used on any admin or fluff it goes to support the landrovers, the ropes, the stretchers, the radios, the earth return phone systems, the hey-phones (well beyond my ken but someone got a PhD developing a radio that worked through a mile of rock)

As the late great Jim Eyre would say - "here come them cave rescuers, with their ropes and their stretchuers"

Looking forward to hearing more good news. If anyone can pull it off these guys can....

ummnamechange · 10/07/2018 11:44

++UPDATE++

Confirmed 9,10 and 11th boy is out of the cave

Justtheonequestion · 10/07/2018 11:45

Wow theyre amazing

SlothSlothSloth · 10/07/2018 11:54

Thank you for the insight into cave rescue, Umm and husband. Really interesting. Just the thought of being underwater in a cave is so terrifying to me. So much respect and admiration for those who do this.

And amazing news about the boys! Nearly there!

I wonder if this will be made into a film one day?

ummnamechange · 10/07/2018 12:18

I hear some hollywood types are out there already.

It isnt that its underwater - but you can be 5 or 10m underwater but have a ceiling so low that you have to lie completely flat, arms out in front, with the air tank disconnected and between your legs, towing it by the hose. In zero visibility / perhaps total darkness, no idea where you are going or how long it is going to take.

Apparently a few dead Cave Divers are found with air in their tanks.....presumably dry drowned.

For an idea .... look here cavedivinggroup.org.uk/british-cave-diving/

DryHeave · 10/07/2018 12:20

Thank you for sharing the donation link, I’ve sent a small donation.