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to ask how self ID will impact upon women from cultures/religions where women aren't allowed to mix with or be alone with men?

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Cismyass · 07/07/2018 07:02

Just that really. Couldn't get the title any more concise but been pondering this for a while now but haven't seen reference to it on MN.
Having lived in Birmingham where woman only swimming sessions and the like are attended well from certain parts of the community precisely because of cultural or religious values disallowing women from mixing freely with men. Surely a transwomen with a penis would cause a right kerfuffle and impinge upon these womens' rights given their religious beliefs?
This is a DISCUSSION where there are different OPINIONS so any cries of 'transphobic' will be roundly ignored.

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BettyDuMonde · 12/07/2018 13:52

The equality act (2010) won’t be changing though, only the GRA (2004).

Lord Lucas is leading the debate in the HoL today and he is very clear on the difference between sex and gender. Self ID should only relate to the category of Gender Reassignment (or whatever they rename it), so same sex spaces for women will still be able to exclude Transwomen.

The legal falsehood of the GRC was created largely to patch the hole that marriage caused. Now that same sex marriage is legal, there is no reason to continue with a process that changes sex legally (seeing as everyone knows you can’t change sex biologically).

Gender identity/presentation is actually quite similar to religious belief/freedom.

Not everyone agrees that it is real, so it can never legally take precedence over biological sex.

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