To be mad that some woman took her infected child to Tesco covered in fresh chicken pox?

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Isn't it contagious like that??
I thought they had to be dried out.
What about people with compromised immune systems or very small babies.
She was with a friend buying sweets, not urgent!! Wtf!!
It is contagious like that isn't it?

I'll look into the vaccine for my son. My husband has not had it.

Chicken Pox is contagious before the spots appear

OP, how do you know it was chicken pox?

And not some other, non-infectious skin condition?

Right. Lets just clear something up. Old and frail people cannot catch chickenpox if they have already had it. By 80/90 I imagine they have had it. You cannot, I repeat CANNOT catch shingles from chickpox before some idiot says it. (You can however, catch chicken pox from shingles because it is the dormant chickpox virus from when the person has had it previously).

She is BU if she was exposing pregnant women who have never had chicken pox as it can seriously harm their babies, and themselves when pregnant.

Anyone else? Not so much a risk. An adult who hasn't had exposure to the chicken pox virus at some point is very, very rare. And even if they think they haven't, they probably had a very mild case as a baby or child with one or two spots.

Stop being a hysterical twit OP and go back to your day job.

What about single mothers?”

“You make it work”.

Ignorant statement at best.

No it isn’t. What is ignorant is deliberately going out when you know you can infect others.

Not everyone can manage to “make it work” and not take their young child out once. My mother was working full time and no one looked after her kids other than her and the childminder, who couldn’t take us when ill.

No one looked after mine either.

If you have a baby with the pox and kids to get to school you just have to get on with it! Not everyone has an army of friends with space in the car for someone else’s kids!

They don’t need space in the car. Someone, anyone, can bring them to your car or to where you are waiting away from other people. Some schools might be OK with you picking them up from the office 10 minutes late or dropping the to school 10 minutes late. There are options if you can be bothered to look for them.

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I’m not sure aware but chicken pox is incredibly contagious prior to spots appearing which is why it goes through primary school classes so quickly.
Also how do you know spots weren’t dry as unless you’re incredibly close and a health professional it’s quite hard to ascertain.

TBH, given that we don't routinely vaccinate against chickenpox in the UK and are told that one of the main reasons for this is that it is usually a mild illness, I can see why people might not realise they should stay at home in the infectious period. The NHS website tells people that they will "need to stay away from school, nursery or work until all the spots have crusted over" and that they should not "be around pregnant women, newborn babies and people with a weakened immune system, as it can be dangerous for them", but really if the best course of action is to ensure someone with chickenpox is quarantined at home in the infectious period, the guidance needs to say so very explicity.

So tbh I'm not sure whether or not yabu- because I think your concerns are valid and your preference that they stay home is right, but people are not given this guidance and may assume that as chickenpox is generally seen as a mild illness that it isn't a big enough deal to keep someone home for.

On CP threads people love to point out that you are also contagious before spots for 1-2 days. Yes that is quite true. BUT just because there might be people who are unknowingly contagious doesn’t give you carte Blanche to knowingly risk others.

@QOD that's a load of bs and you know it and has nothing to do with CP.

Soup Dragon - how did you eat then? Mine had it in the days before online shopping. Between them they had spots for over 3 weeks. I lived far away from any family and whilst I could ask a friend to bring me a few emergency provisions, I wasn't in a position to ask for food parcels for 3 weeks!!!!!

I'm sure that's how my children got the Pox too. A woman was in a shop with her kid and made some flippant comment about us not getting close as the kid has the pox. We were on the other side of the shop. Nowhere near her. BAM. A week later CP arrived. It wasn't pleasant. All the kids have got scars and I've never seen CP like it. They were covered. Head to toe.

The shop we were in also couldn't be classed as an urgent purchase.

If the best guidance was to quarantine then no one would get it as a kid and we'd all be incredibly sick as adults. Genius idea.

Baby pox parties are best. If your kid get to 6 without having been exposed then thats on you if they have a bad case. At 1 or 2 it wouldve likely been mild and just a few days poorly.

Well Hurricane they would have got it sooner or later?!
The worst thing you can do is to get to adulthood and not be immune. I know that because a good friend tragically lost her Dad from primary chickenpox.

I still had to take mine on sch0ol run when one had CP.

Only a tiny number of children catching chickenpox suffer serious consequences, and they likely would suffer more if they caught it later.

What a moronic attitude. So it’s ok to expose others then Phosphorus? A tiny number still equals someone’s pregnancy lost, someone’s child dangerously ill or at risk of death. Just because it hasn’t happened to anyone you know doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

Okay as Chicken pox vaccine is not part of “Primary immunisations” in UK most people don’t vaccinate their children.
I work in children’s health and I only considered vaccinating DD privately because DS contracted at age 5 and was really unwell.
But I realised that it wouldn’t have made any difference as she had been exposed already.
DD came down with chicken pox 10 days after her brother and around 50% of the children in the year group also contracted.
The reason chicken pox is not on NHS “Primary immunisation” is due to shingles.
Just to add my DH had chicken pox age 21 and was extremely unwell.
I’m not sure what the solution is though

But Schrödinger, people just will catch chickenpox, and catching it younger is better.

If you are predisposed to reacting badly to the virus, you will react at 3 or 30.

But catching an ordinary dose as an adult is exceptionally unpleasant.

A friend in schools mother had a still born daughter due to catching chicken pox in pregnancy.

And when i was on auto immune suppresants I was told if I came into contact with anyone with chicken pox to see a dr straight away. Unsure why they always made a big point about chicken pox specifically.

I had the horrid thing 4 times as a kid..!! So bit dubious about the whole you can only catch it once thing!

I can’t believe people like phosphorus are still advocating chicken pox parties. My ndn went to one of those as a toddler and nearly died! Idiotic idea.

The man was an ignorant idiot. Most people can get someone to buy a few sweets for them and drop them round.

Phosphorus, there is much more to it than being “predisposed” to reacting badly. People’s immune systems change over time depending on their age and other medical conditions. A person who gets CP as a newborn wil react differently to the virus than if they were exposed at 3 or 30.

You appear to have a very limited understanding and I suggest you do a bit more research before you spout ignorant crap on the internet. I am an infectious diseases specialist btw.

Some of the 'couldn't give a shit about others' attitudes here are just something else

If your child has chicken pox don't be so bloody selfish as to expose them to other people. You don't know who might be pregnant, who might have a compromised immune system etc. A trip to the supermarket is not an emergency. Get it online if it's that urgent.

I had this shit with a 'friend' of mine earlier on this year. 'Friend', myself and a third friend were supposed to be meeting at third friend's house. She arrived in with her 2 kids cool as a breeze and announced she was so stressed out as 'they both have chicken pox'

To say I was fucking FUMING is an understatement. I have as little as possible to do with her now as does the other friend as neither of us want anything to do with someone who's such a selfish bitch

My eldest DD had CP and to be honest, I only knew she had it as others as school did. She literally had 3 spots, and was barely unwell at all apart from being a bit tired for a few days. She passed it onto our 6 month old DD who ended up in hospital.... she had blisters in her mouth, ears, nose, and got badly infected ones in her groin/nappy area. She had to be tube fed for days, sedated to stop her itching and she was dreadfully unwell. I would (and have) called people out for taking their children out with it. It's such a selfish ignorant action.

I think people should read the NHS info on why they don't offer the chicken pox vaccine: www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/why-are-children-in-the-uk-not-vaccinated-against-chickenpox/.

The very angry comments about people being criminal or idiots or whatever to actively try to get their dc to catch chickenpox young are perfectly understandable if they have known someone who caught chickenpox young and was very, very unwell (one of my cousins was seriously unwell with chickenpox as a child, so i do get how serious it can be for a few children)- but they should realise that the NHS believes that if chickenpox wasn't widely caught by very young children, there would be an increased risk of chickenpox and shingles cases in adults. Chickenpox in adults is far, far more likely to be severe and to come with complications than chickenpox in childhood, and "being exposed to chickenpox as an adult – for example, through contact with infected children – boosts your immunity to shingles". it really isn't as simple as people seem to think.

What about people who are receiving chemotherapy? Contracting chicken pox could prove fatal for them. I believe that you can catch it if receiving chemo, even if you have had it before. People who take their child out when they are contagious are totally selfish and have no regard for the health and safety of others.