To be mad that some woman took her infected child to Tesco covered in fresh chicken pox?

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Isn't it contagious like that??
I thought they had to be dried out.
What about people with compromised immune systems or very small babies.
She was with a friend buying sweets, not urgent!! Wtf!!
It is contagious like that isn't it?

Pram your scientific pontificating does nothing to persuade. The fact is not whether or not the illness is considered to be mild, but whether or not it is morally right to wander around in public when there is a likelihood that you could pass the disease on to someone who cannot cope with it. The answer to that is no it isn't.
(Disclaimer: My PhD is History).

I let you know that I hold a doctorate (in the sciences) to demonstrate that I am highly educated. Your histrionics suggest that you are not.

LOL what an arse. I wonder whether you always attempt to "win" arguments by saying "well I have a doctorate, so STFU I'm right, nerr nerr nerr!"

What your doctorate should have taught you is how to form a reasoned argument and put it forward in a civilized manner, and how to communicate effectively with others.

Such a closed mind for one so educated, where is your humility, questioning attitude and interest in other points of view? Did you simply present current mainstream thinking as your thesis, no novel findings?

Incredibly selfish behaviour. We were recently in a queue at legoland behind a child with chickenpox (as were many MANY pregnant mothers and tiny babies). People were wiping down seats and handle bars after them. They couldn't have given less of a shit....

just don't understand what you think the solution should be. By keeping your child isolated from chicken pox, you are putting them at a much higher risk when they get it later in life.

Oh if there only was a solution to ensure healthy people are immune and can't spread the disease in the first place..like a vaccine or something..

People on chemotherapy, coming into contact with chickenpox, could actually kill them.

I wouldn’t get the vaccine because the concerns about the risk of contracting more serious cases’ of singles later haven’t been satisfied. Which is another reason the NHS don’t offer routinely

Children will be chicken pox marked for weeks though. I don’t think most people are very good at telling whether a child is fully scabbed over or not. My D.C. got comments in public for strangers for weeks after they’d scabbed over. I really resented the pious pricks stopping me on the street to tell me off

Chicken pox parties are fucking idiotic (to put it politely.)
Yes you can stay in for a week if your kids have chicken pox to those who say you can't, don't be so ridiculous.
Both mine have had them over the years (the then 5 year old caught them from school and his baby brother then caught them from him) - and it won't bloody kill you to stay in for a week.
It CAN kill or harm others though, and I have no idea how anyone could be so utterly selfish and self absorbed to not give a shit as they feel inconvenienced or peeved at being put out by chicken pox.

haha jeez live and let live.... In 1978, my mother took my brother (with chicken pox) on an aeroplane to Majorca - she made him wear a polo neck jumper to cover the spots haha!

Fucking hilarious
Let's hope her sheer ignorance didn't harm anyone on the plane then.

This scares me. My son has a compromised immune system, a cold can put him in hospital for two weeks. I can't work because I can't trust that parents won't send sick kids in to the nursery.

I dread to think what chicken pox would do to him at this stage in his life.

It's completely selfish and small minded to go out in public with infection disease. Have a little social conscience. In Japan they will wear a face mask if they think they have a cold so as not to pass it on. Maybe we should take some influence from them.

Japan’s face masks are useless.

@kitchenrollinrollinrollin Fair enough, Kitchen, I've taken your point on board.

I wouldn’t get the vaccine because the concerns about the risk of contracting more serious cases’ of singles later haven’t been satisfied. Which is another reason the NHS don’t offer routinely

If someone never gets chicken pox, they can never get shingles. In addition, a shingles vaccine now exists for those in at-risk groups.

The theory was that chicken pox freely circulating in the population meant people got regular ‘boosters’ and were less likely to get shingles, which is particularly serious for older people.

That theory hasn’t been borne out by the evidence base we have now - particularly around risks to the elderly. The evidence now shows that there is a temporary increase in shingles cases - around double - but almost entirely in 31-40 year olds, rather than the elderly.

New papers have also found that the ‘beneficial’ effect of exposure to chicken pox as a booster to shingles immunity lasts only two years, not 20 as previously thought.

The idea that you would put children at risk of unpleasant and potentially (if unusually) serious illness to avoid an unpleasant and potentially (if unusually) serious illness among people in their 30s is pretty bizarre. It is even more bizarre when you consider the temporary nature of the increase, because once vaccinated people are in that age group, the risk disappears.

The UK is increasingly an outlier on not vaccinating against chicken pox and the reasons are more to do with Wakefield than the evidence base for vaccinating.

The other reason for vaccinating children is that it’s around 98% effective for them. Waiting until they are a teenager or adult means 75% effectiveness.

Japan’s face masks are useless.

Whether they work or not it shows the different attitude they have to us.

How many times has some idiot riddled with cold gone into work, sneezed all over the place and given it to everyone in the office.

@JassyRadlett

Thank you for your post. Really interesting and stuff I didn't know.

Haribo, I’d planned to get DS1 vaccinated but lazily didn’t get around to it. I regret it hugely. He got it just after he turned two and was pretty unwell - flu symptoms and very deep spots that were painful rather than itchy, and four years on he still had very noticeable scars on his torso.

DS2 had his first vaccine the week after he turned 1!

I had it when I was 20, despite regular exposure as a child. Absolutely awful.

I thought when the spots came out he child was no longer infectious. The infectious period is about 5 days prior to the spots appearing? I'm probably wrong but maybe she thought that too?

Lenny
It’s when all the spots crust over. Uncrusted spots are highly infectious.

If you are not prepared to stay inside/garden/car/immune people's himed when your child has chickenpox, just get them vaccinated. Simple (mine are vaccinated - should they get it anyway, we will
stay away from others). otherwise you are either plain dumb, or malicious.

On the topic of chickenpox being harmless: both my cousins ended up in icu with it. both have deep scars on face and torso from
it. they didn't die, but were very ill
and are permanently disfigured (the scars are that bad)

I’m beginning to think NHS said rethink their policy re chickenpox because if DC hadn’t had the actual illness by now (their preteens) i’d be worried as I know it’s much worse when you have it as young adult as did my DH and an ex of mine ( both from Ghana).
One of my colleagues in her 60’s lost her baby brother to Chicken Pox she’s from Nigeria and it wasn’t as common their in 50’s and 60’s

Phosphorus
How rude to ask me to answer politely.

As for expecting me to research the information. I believe a pp said the same to you. Do you intend to do the same? I don’t think so as I believe you just copied them to try to look clever and then clarified they could be a shoe sales person for all you know.

You are clearly in the minority here in thinking cp parties are a good idea. Many many posters have explained why it is not. They don’t have to access studies to tell you this. Experts agree. Just one article on why your lay persons opinion is ridiculous here.