To be mad that some woman took her infected child to Tesco covered in fresh chicken pox?

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Isn't it contagious like that??
I thought they had to be dried out.
What about people with compromised immune systems or very small babies.
She was with a friend buying sweets, not urgent!! Wtf!!
It is contagious like that isn't it?

So perhaps we should all stop using cars after all none of use would like to be responsible for injuring a child, Why is one risk acceptable and another not?

You could potentially have a car accident on the way to the shops however your pox-riddled child with definitely be shedding live virus all around the shops when you arrive.

One is a risk, the other is a certainty.

PramCush

Actually crying with laughter at 'I hold a doctorate'. What's your doctorate in? Myths and legends?

On a more serious note, you need to tighten your research focus if you're going to pontificate to the parents of immuno suppressed children.

@HariboIsMyCrack pox pops god I'm sheltered what along with scarlet fever flavour skittles !!!😄

DS's chickenpox spots were really big and took almost 2 weeks to heal and scab over but after the 7 days of being kept at home we carried on as normal and he was back in school. Younger DS didn't get the pox until 3 weeks later but must have been incubating in the time prior. What are people supposed to do in this instance?

Who the fuck would buy a used lollipop from an anonymous random and give it to their child? . The pox could be the very least it carried.

Op, how do you know it was chicken pox?

Totally unfair. I've never had it, I'm now pregnant so me catching it could make me seriously ill!! I would be livid if I caught it from a child who was out buying sweets. A few days in the house is not going to kill anyone (and actually, might save other people's lives!!!) what if an elderly person who's never had it caught it and ended up dead because of it!

Larasshadow that was going to be my question too. Unless she specifically told u it was chicken pox, you don’t actually know if it was.

I would agree that you don't even know if it was chickenpox. My DD recently had lots midge bites to which she reacted badly. You would struggle to differentiate them from CP vesicles - especially at a distance. And I've seen lots of kids with chickenpox ( I'm a GP)

@kitchenrollinrollinrollin You find it hilarious that I have a PhD? Because I, like the NHS, consider chicken pox to be a mild illness?

No of course she shouldn’t be out the house with chicken pox.

People should respect other people’s medical conditions.
I put a note through my neighbours doors saying when I am out so they can cut their grass without affecting my hay fever.
It’s not hard.

It might be a mild illness for most, it was for my daughter, unfortunately she gave it to me (later my GP confirmed I'd had a mild dose in my childhood from my notes). I was hospitalised as it spread into my mouth and down my throat, they were worried it would end up in my lungs. Pumped full of anti-virals for several days, I've never felt so ill. I can still remember the feeling of my throat getting more and more constricted and no painkillers giving any relief until I was admitted. But yes do feel free to inflict your pox ridden kids on the rest of the population so you can do your shopping.

I thought it was most infectious before the spots came out. I'm sorry you were so ill lok

Topworrier- no need to be a top worrier getting chicken pox when pregnant can very rarely cause complications but it is rare. Think of all the women who are pregnant with their second child whilst their first gets chicken pox! It happened to me and the GP wasn’t even that interested.

Having had children with chicken pox though I don’t really understand CP parties. It went round our nursery with single cases for 4 months before a final epidemic.

How useless must chicken pox parties of the 70s actually be if you’re not catching them from children you’re all over in the infectious period before the spots come out?

pram

The idea that someone would say "I hold a doctorate" as if that must mean their hard of thinking, disingenuous comments are somehow more valid now. Especially when the content of the doctorate is not specified. If you had said your research area was immuno compromised children in the community it would be different. But you didn't of course, because you don't know diddly squat about it and your doctorate hasn't informed you.

It's strange that someone educated to your level is unable to fathom how a "mild illness" that is more serious than a cold in a well child may be a much more serious matter in a child with immune system deficiencies. Also strange that you feel able to assume the NHS would consider chicken pox a "mild" illness for a child fitting this description (or a pregnant women) simply because they have described it in those terms for the general population who are not pregnant and have functioning immune systems. I guarantee you would grow eleventy billion neural connections overnight if your child was immuno compromised.

I will say it again. Educate yourself and grow the fuck up.

@kitchenrollinrollinrollin Chicken pox is considered a mild illness. By the NHS. I let you know that I hold a doctorate (in the sciences) to demonstrate that I am highly educated. Your histrionics suggest that you are not. Of course diseases (such as chicken pox, colds, flus, cold sores) can be dangerous to immunocompromised people. They are - nonetheless - mild illnesses. Lots of mild illnesses can be dangerous for immunocompromised people.

It is far better to keep chicken pox alive in the general population than to try to stop it spreading through healthy children. A main advantage is that children are then likely to get it when they are young, rather than when they are adults and more complications can arise.

I just can't believe how hysterical so many MNetters are on this issue. In real life, when someone's kid gets chicken pox, we treat it like the minor deal it is and move on with our lives.

Of course things are differemt for immunocompromised children. That's always going to be the way, with every mild illness.

The link above from the NHS website confirms they view it as a mild illness. Obviously that doesn’t mean it can’t have complications or complex issues but they base policy on the majority. No one has said chicken pox isn’t serious if your immune compromised

This is why I booked DS in to be vaccinated. Unfortunately he came down with it the week before the appointment!

I'm a single mother. I stayed in for ten days. It was shit, yes, but we managed. I had food delivered and the fab pharmacy round the corner hand delivered some Poxclin stuff when I phoned and explained the situation. Deliberately ignoring medical advice on this is so irresponsible.

YANBU my son nearly died when he developed acute cellulitis from chickenpox just before his second birthday. We were isolated in hospital for a week and he was on a morphine drip hallucinating penguins ( I blame too much Pingu!).
He wasn't immune compromised, was the muckiest child in existence and was full time at nursery...the hospital said there was nothing we could have done to prevent it.
Chicken pox is not an 'easy' childhood illness and can and does still kill. I can't stand this utter bollocks of chicken pox parties or the selfishness of exposing others to any disease like this.

Chicken pox can turn nasty in healthy children too. It does happen plus it affects my ability to earn a living so would much rather people were cautious and allow it to be my decision whether I need to infect the young children I look after and their parents would also struggle to work (I work as a childminder). I know that you ultimately never get to decide when your child gets chicken pox BUT to expose a child to it without any consideration is just nasty.

But it likely would have been worse if your child were older. Of course their can be complications in healthy people from mild illnesses. I was hospitalised as a child (7 years old) with complications following chickenpox. I wish I had gotten it younger. I'm also glad I got it before I was an adult and before I became pregnant.

I just don't understand what you think the solution should be. By keeping your child isolated from chicken pox, you are putting them at a much higher risk when they get it later in life.

pram
No, I don't have a doctorate. Does a masters persuade you that I may be able to think? No one is arguing that chicken pox is usually mild and not a serious problem for healthy children (although still not something to be complacent about). What is very saddening is your breathtakingly complacent conflation of chicken pox with colds (because they're both 'mild illness' in healthy children and you clearly don't give a shit about seriously sick and vulnerable children).

Dismissing the whole problem by saying that lots of things are serious for ill children is just so selfish. We could have the debate about various mild children's illnesses, yes, but they are still worthwhile issues that should be of concern to the general population in a civilised society. Especially people who are parents themselves. Chicken pox is particularly valid to discuss because the vaccine isn't widely available here so it is still common.

You think people who care are hysterical because you don't care. Educate yourself and grow a conscience. It could be your child one day and you may find yourself wishing that other parents gave a fuck about the few children out there who can't easily cope with mild illnesses. In those circumstances, a cold would seem scary and chicken pox would seem terrifying. You'd know the difference.