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To wish the people screaming outside would shut up?

610 replies

Notcontent · 03/07/2018 22:02

Yes, I do understand that people are excited about the football, but it’s Tuesday night and my DC, who is completely exhausted, has to get up early for school - the rather scary shouting has just woken her up. Yep, I know someone will say I should move to the middle of nowhere. I would love to - as many people would - but sadly that’s not possible.

OP posts:
TheUnknowner · 04/07/2018 14:00

Wow there's some miserable people on here.

Saturday night will be amazing if we win! Try and enjoy the country being happy for a change and step outside of your sad little bubble

Seasawride · 04/07/2018 14:00

professor

That’s shocking.

HairDyedPink · 04/07/2018 14:08

funny how some posters claim their right to be noisy to cheer for their chosen event, but refuse the right for others to silently express their disapproval on an internet forum.

It doesn't seem to go both ways, does it Grin

ShatnersWig · 04/07/2018 14:14

@ReadingRiot I saw the figure of 24 million supposedly watched the match last night. The way figures are gathered is ridiculously daft and unreliable for accuracy that you may as well put your finger in the air and make a guess.

Usernumbers1234 · 04/07/2018 14:16

Come on Shatners, they days of people completing viewing diaries for ratings are long over. They can draw some decent conclusions from online and digital tv data.

Whether it was 18 or 24 or 28m if you were on the road last night after 7pm it was pretty clear that a large majority were watching

Plimmy · 04/07/2018 14:16

It does go both ways. Which is why there is discussion. The reasons for objecting to public noise about a once in thirty-year event are the issue.

Neverender · 04/07/2018 14:19

seesawride no thanks, I'll pass.

Usernumbers1234 · 04/07/2018 14:20

Hairdyedpink

I think most of the vitriol for the grumps on this thread is not to do with the right to shout. To be fair I love football but managed to resist the urge to run into the street shouting, I actually think they have a point in there.

It’s more the snipy and in many cases ludicrous comments and generalisations about - ‘why do people want to watch overpaid kicking a ball in stadium full of violent wife beating psychopaths’

Quite often from people who are regulars on the Coronation Street threads telling us we are wasting our lives watching half a dozen England games every 2 years, whilst they spend 2 hours a week watching poorly acted and scripted imaginary stories about imaginary people

ReadingRiot · 04/07/2018 14:20

It doesn't matter Shatners even if it's 10% of that figure there's nothing else that can come close in popularity and there's no other live event that can attract even 5% of the attendance football does on a weekly basis.

ProfessorMoody · 04/07/2018 14:20

Irma - The Royal Family aren't allowed to play Monopoly because of the arguments Grin

ShatnersWig · 04/07/2018 14:22

@Usernumbers No, it's still done in the old fashioned way! BARB have boxes in just over 5,000 homes which account for some 13,000 people in those homes and then they simply blow it up assuming that pattern is repeated across the UK. If you went onto ITV at 9.30 to watch scheduled Love Island and sat there for a minute watching adverts and then all of a sudden there was more football, and you turned over, you are counted as a viewer of that football match. Even if you literally saw ten seconds of it.

I don't dispute a LOT of people were watching it but those figures take no account of how many people were watching in a pub or club. It could be even more than 24 million! And some of those not on the roads last night were watching Wimbledon.

ShatnersWig · 04/07/2018 14:30

Interestingly, while we get these peaks of interest in football during the World Cup, it doesn't ever translate to increases in people going to go and watch a match live.

More people go to the theatre than go to watch football. Yet how much attention does theatre - as opposed to film or TV - get in newspapers or television. Almost nothing.

psychomath · 04/07/2018 14:36

Thanks Jorah! I'm only in my mid 20s myself, but looking at all his achievements I understand how people feel when they realise the prime minister or whoever is younger than them Grin

ReanimatedSGB · 04/07/2018 14:40

There are people who watch and play a lot of football - either belonging to some local footballing club or following a particular team around the country. I've got some friends who are very keen on football.
They tend not to be the ones who are incapable of understanding that other people might not like football and might not want to hear about it or discuss it.
The people who are the problem on this thread are the idiot conformists who think that everyone should care about a particular football competition, which is no more or less fucking boring than any other football game, and that other people's state of mind should be dependent on what some random strangers are doing on a circle of grass in another country.

ReanimatedSGB · 04/07/2018 14:45

Plus ,it's quite difficult to get away from the noise and bullshit associated with big men's football contests, even if you make the effort to do so,, and have a group of friends equally uninterested. Finding a pub or a bar or a restaurant to have a quiet drink when a football match is happening is pretty difficult - and if you do find one, some fucker will show up demanding the telly is switched on, or will start watching it on their phone with all the attendant mooing and grunting...

RedBallpointPens · 04/07/2018 14:46

the idiot conformists who think that everyone should care about a particular football competition

Nah, most people on this thread are just saying that you should accept that a lot of people really do care about it. And that sometimes the other humans you live near might make some noise at an inconvenient time. Whinging about other people being happy (like the OP of this thread) is pretty crappy.

Also, football isn't played on a circle of grass - the pitch is rectangular.

JacquesHammer · 04/07/2018 14:47

The people who are the problem on this thread are the idiot conformists who think that everyone should care about a particular football competition, which is no more or less fucking boring than any other football game, and that other people's state of mind should be dependent on what some random strangers are doing on a circle of grass in another country

Has anyone actually said everyone should like it?

Rather people seem to be objecting to the ridiculous assertions about football fans

thornyhousewife · 04/07/2018 14:49

I love it that my kids are hearing people scream and shout. They are going to grow up as part of this community and it's important they see what's important to the people around them.

Not a fan of swearing but it's going to have to be discussed at some point!

CruCru · 04/07/2018 14:56

Meh, I can see the OP's point. I don't mind hearing people who are actually watching the match cheering while it is on. Having idiots repeatedly drive past my house beeping their horn for a couple of hours afterwards was irritating.

RedBallpointPens · 04/07/2018 15:03

Having idiots repeatedly drive past my house beeping their horn for a couple of hours afterwards was irritating.

I can see your point on the beeping. Car horns are there so you can warn other drivers of imminent hazards, not to celebrate a football match. They certainly shouldn't have been doing that til midnight.

That's not the same thing as complaining about people cheering tho.

myrtleWilson · 04/07/2018 15:07

@Shatnerswig - genuine question but where did you get your figures from on theatre v football attendance. The Arts Council Report in 2016 suggests 28million theatre attendances whilst figures for Premier League, EFL (Championship, League 1 and League 2) suggest about 32million - and that figure won't include non league and other - which I've seen suggested a further 14million attendance.

mydogisthebest · 04/07/2018 15:12

Me and DH both hate football but would still love to see England win the World Cup.

DH was working last night so I was sitting watching Wimbledon. I did turn the tv over a couple of times to see how England were doing. Once I knew it was going to be penalties I thought, along probably with just about the whole country, that that was it we were out.

I ended up watching the penalties although with my hands almost in front of my eyes as I could barely bear to watch. We were the first to miss and, again, I though "as usual we go out on penalties". Then the miracle happened - we won.

I actually shouted out. I didn't hear any noise from neighbours (I know one side is a fan) but in a way I would have liked to.

I always feel sorry for England fans because they have so little to celebrate (I like F1 and support Lewis Hamilton and tennis and support Andy Murray so have plenty to celebrate). This time they have had something to be happy about so why are so many people so bloody miserable about it?

I really hope they beat Sweden on Saturday.

ITS COMING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Usernumbers1234 · 04/07/2018 15:17

AntagonisticSGB - Not one person in 20 odd pages has said “you should enjoy the football” they’ve just said “you should accept that others do, and a bit of noise at 945pm twice a decade shouldn’t really upset anyone”

What you and others have said repeatedly is that we shouldn’t enjoy football because you didn’t enjoy PE at school.

See the disconnect?

LeighaJ · 04/07/2018 15:18

Wow this is like a reunion for all those capable of sucking joy and fun out of every occasion (that's not important to self-absorbed you).

It's only every 4 years and England hasn't made it to the quarter finals in 12 years and has never won a penalty shootout in the finals until last night.

My home country didn't qualify to be in the world cup. I shouted in glee with my British husband as England won last night, our newborn daughter wasn't bothered as she was watching too and is use to happy football shouting.

ShatnersWig · 04/07/2018 15:23

@myrtleWilson I need to dig out the most recent figures. The only ones I had to hand in my office (I work in theatre management) were for 2013 where combined audience at Premier League matches was 13 million while combined audience at London theatres was 22 million. So almost double.

Now, that excludes the championship and EFL but their stadium sizes are such that it would be very difficult to produce the 9 million difference between those two figures. But then you would add on all the other theatres outside of London which would then create a gap again.

I wouldn't include non-league football as I wouldn't include amateur dramatics.