To think the should stop fucking with sugar and replacing it with shit chemicals?

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First Capri Sun, now Coco Pops! Stop fucking with recipes!

Yeah, yeah, sugar tax. I'd rather my kids had one thing that was sugary than a bunch of chemicals!

They should still sell the old products. Surely sales will just go down anyway because they now all taste like shit?

Yes but I would stop the marketing coco pops and other such stuff at children.

I would also like to see sugar reduced/removed from products but not replaced with artificial sweeteners.

Yanbu. Lots of people can't eat the chemical replacements.
I'm also not sure if people realise how toxic Xylitol is to dogs, and possibly other pets. Many people like to give their pets a taste of what they're eating.

Totally agree. I get that too much sugar is a Very Bad Thing, but to create a situation where producers are falling over themselves to replace it with artificial crap... madness. Luckily, I don’t much like sugary drinks, sometimes I’ll crave one on a very hot day, but sweeteners leave me with a horrible aftertaste, so I just won’t bother now.

Years ago, a colleague was referred to a dietician. One thing that has always stuck with me was her view that a small amount of something natural is better than a larger amount of something artificial. That seems pretty sensible to me.

Sugar is chemicals too.

I hope it backfires on them and their sales plummet. I doubt it will though sadly.

I agree with you. I think everything g sweet is so cheap and every day now, like chocolate used to be a treat, now it's cheap to buy a multipack. People also aren't walking far to burn off all the energy they have eaten. I try and avoid artificial sweeteners and palm oil, both are very difficult!

Genuinely want to know - how is sugar chemicals Malmi?

YANBU think the addition of alleged "healthier" chemical replacements for sugar has led to society believing that they don't have to moderate their consumption of food that used to be considered treats. Ultimately it has led to an unhealthy relationship with food.

We absolutely need to go back to eating as natural as possible.

@malmi is being pedantic, with sugar having the formula C6H12O6 but the difference with it is it’s natural and not mass produced in a lab

There will be a health issue with this in the future.
The Government ( s ) probably think they are doing a good thing . However, the advice they are given is not up to date.
One good thing is that they taste so bad so people avoid them now.

I agreed with @anotherangel2

I feel the same with the things I'm feeding dd, I would rather she had a small amount of sugar and salt rather than some chemical i can't even pronounce

I totally agree, reduce the sugar, no crap chemicals.

One thing that has always stuck with me was her view that a small amount of something natural is better than a larger amount of something artificial

Completely agree with this. The replacement of sugar and fat for artificial sweeteners and things like palm oil is not a good thing. We are being tricked into thinking low fat/ sugar free products are something healthy but they are not. This stuff is making people fat and making people ill.

Completely agree, why not reduce the amount real sugar but keep it natural.

I agree. But I take that approach across all foods as a pp person said - a little of something natural rather than a lot of fake.

I agree 100%. Yes, the vast majority of people need to eat (and drink) less sugar and yes most processed food contains far too much sugar so deal with that, don't add something else that's (probably) just as bad if not worse for us.

Our school serves an ice lolly for dessert once a week. It meets all the nutritional guidelines because it's free from sugar, salt and fat. The fact that it's basically made from artificial sweeteners, and colours and flavours and contains no actual nutrition at all seems irrelevant. The world really has gone mad

Hmmmmm I don’t know tbh. I don’t like sweeteners, as I think they taste foul. But fizzy drinks, Capri suns and coco pops? To me, if they now taste so disgusting nobody buys them, that’s a good thing. I agree with “a bit of something natural instead of lots of something artificial”. But to me that means some fruit juice, honey on your porridge or a wee bit of decent cake occasionally. Not a can of coke or a bowl of chocolate flavoured rice air. I’d rather the processed crap (and I do think it’s crap) was gross then nobody (my dcs included) would want it!

One thing that has always stuck with me was her view that a small amount of something natural is better than a larger amount of something artificial

Agree with this 100% you only have to compare the full sugar / fat with the reduced / half fat sugar product and the number of ingredients on the list goes up

YANBU op. They should have introduced sugar tax and foreseen this chemical substitute and taxed that too!!

My parents were born 1934 and 1937 they are so fit and healthy and I fear for myself and dcs at their age - we may well be alive due to medical advances - but at what cost and I bet it will all be related to processed / chemical foods rather than eating healthy natural stuff and yummy things in sensible quantities!

I'm not really being pedantic. Sucrose is C12H22O11, Glucose is C6H12O6, Saccharin is C7H5O3NS, Aspartame is C13H18O5N2. They're all combinations of Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms, plus Nitrogen for Aspartame and also Sulphur for Saccharin. They're all chemicals.

It doesn't matter whether these atoms are combined naturally or in a factory, the result is a molecule with exactly those combinations of atoms.

In terms of the quantity, you are actually consuming 200 times less Aspartame than Glucose for equivalent sweetness, so by switching from sugar to artificial sweeter you are consuming less 'chemicals'.

There are health concerns for both natural and artificial sweeteners but none of it comes down to 'it's chemicals', it's to do with the quantity consumed and how the body breaks it down. Things are not certified for use in food unless they are deemed largely safe for human consumption. Ricin is "natural" but you wouldn't want to sprinkle it on your cornflakes.

What are they doing to coco pops? It's one of the only cereals I can eat due to allergies, although I do wish they would reduce the sugar as they are too sweet. Artificial sweeteners don't agree with me either.

Yanbu - unfortunately I don't see it change in the UK, especially after Brexit and the adoption of some TTIP like trading agreement with non-EU countries who are even worse at adding chemicals

Sugar is a chemical, water is a chemical, milk is full of chemicals. Not everything natural is healthy and not everything artificial is bad for us.

Having said that, all the artificially sweetened drinks taste disgusting and I don't want them for that reason alone. If you're drinking too many calories from pop/juice etc, you need to cut down, not continue to drink gallons of the shite stuff.

For cordial, the only 'standard' ones without artificial sweetners in are limited to M&S, Waitrose and Sainsburys and it's annoying that there are about 10 flavours that are no/low sugar and only about 3 that are full sugar, and they are out of stock more often than not. It's the element of choice being taken away that annoys me most, but it's just the manufacturers looking after their biggest customers and they don't give a shit about those of us who favour quality over quantity.

They've replaced most of the sugar with glucose syrup in coco pops and are touting it as 30% less sugar!

I notice that stevia is being used in a lot of things as a replacement for sugar and that is plant derived.

Stevia still tastes horrible according to those on here who've tried new style San Pellegrino.