To think the should stop fucking with sugar and replacing it with shit chemicals?

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First Capri Sun, now Coco Pops! Stop fucking with recipes!

Yeah, yeah, sugar tax. I'd rather my kids had one thing that was sugary than a bunch of chemicals!

They should still sell the old products. Surely sales will just go down anyway because they now all taste like shit?

Agree. I buy my children cordial now with sugar in it rather than carcinogenic sweeteners.

It's ridiculous.

They've replaced oil and butter with palm oil, sugar with sweeteners.
They shoving crap products down consumer's throats to sell more of it.

I wonder if this is what Jamie Oliver was thinking would happen with his sugar smart campaign?
I help run a sports club, they used to have a drink of squash part way through to help re hydrate and give them an energy boost; because the squash is all full of artificial sweeteners, it does neither. Now we offer water (good thing) but have to buy and cut up oranges (far more expensive and time consuming) we are self funded and volunteers, so these things matter.

It is making people realise how much sugar has been added to stuff they eat. Its a monstrous amount and a major reason of obesity levels in the uk

I think we need to wean ourselves off needing so much sweet stuff and go back to it being a treat or something we have in moderation rather than the mainstay it is.

10years ago I reduced the amount of salt we used drastically - I basically rarely cook with it at all and although things were bland whilst I adjusted how I cooked stuff now I often find things cooked by others too salty.
Don't get me wrong I still have the odd packet of crisps and I love them but I don't cook with it or anything like that.

Similarly with sugar - my kids have never had sugary cereal, I've just never bought it. My son won't eat it even when it's the only option (when on a sleepover) as he now thinks it's too sweet. He likes sweet things & sweets occasionally but actually doesn't demand it as the flavouring of all foods that some people do because he's not used to having it all the time. We don't cut out sugar but also don't use it all the time.

It's really not an easy option though to retrain your tastebuds as you need to cook a lot of stuff from scratch and learn how to actually bring out flavours rather than rely on sugar and salt to flavour food. Supermarket foods really don't help with this and so I understand that it's easy to preach about it but actually very hard to do as life gets in the way.

“...rather than carcinogenic sweeteners.“

Evidence for that please? Thought that was pretty scant?

Agree stevia tastes horrible, I am just trying to eat whole foods now insteAd of artificial shite, just take it out of the equation.

We definitely need more availability of flavoured but unsweetened drinks. M&S do a couple of types of unsweetened flavoured water with mint & cucumber, lemon & ginger or elderflower flavouring that are really nice and a change from plain water.

You can also get cans of lemon sparkling water in Sainsburys but there's currently little else out there.

The problem is so bad that I often have half a lager when having a pub lunch unless it would be really inappropriate because I don't think any of them do full sugar cordial any more, which rules out lime and soda etc. I'm not paying pub prices for mineral water, I might as well have lager instead, it's sometimes cheaper too .

A 330ml can of coke has 7 teaspoons of sugar in it

A serving (30g) of coco pops has 12g of sugar

I mean, fucking hell , thats a lot

If i have any kind of drink/food with that aspartamine crap in it i get stomach cramps/ acid reflux and heart burn. I cant wait(!) for the day (prob in 10-15yrs) when they make the big public announcement that these synthetic additives cause cancer etc. They have no idea what the long term effect is. I would rather have "full fat/sugar" and eat a healthy diet. Its getting annoying now having to check nearly every label for the poison they have added.

Cocoa pops and Capri sun?

What about cereal that's just cereal (add sugar if you want) and juice? Or fruit? Or water? Or milk?

The real insanity is how we think children eating vast quantities of cheap, sweet crap is normal.

I completely agree with you, I'm not sure that we know yet whether sweeteners are really any better or worse than actual sugar. I also think that it's a fairly rubbish solution to the problem. We perhaps need to find a better way to improve our diet habits rather than simply banning this that and the other.

Slighty off topic but i would also like to be able to buy a bloody "full fat" yoghurt!!

Try Longley farm yogurts they are amazing.

I buy my children cordial now with sugar in it rather than carcinogenic sweeteners

Same here.
Most people will just blindly follow though and not even think about it.

Yes. Sweeteners vile, hate them all.

The main YABU is buying Capri Suns and CocoPops more than once a year in the first place.

www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/artificial-sweeteners-fact-sheet

It says there is no evidence yet that they cause cancer in humans and yet they cause cancer in rats. Do you want to take the chance? Because I don't.

Perhaps domestic science ought to be put on the school curriculum? It would teach children about food, nutrition and what constitutes a balanced diet, we might see that ignorance has been the problem all along.

I don’t understand why people buy this stuff for their families, if we stopped buying they would stop production, it seems the marketing for these products gets all the blame, who is going to suffer if we stopped buying coco pops and squash? Not the children that’s for sure.

What fizzy drinks and cordials can you buy that don’t have artificial sweeteners in them? I’m finding it very difficult.
We don’t have them often but it’s nice during this hot weather. I couldn’t find anything in the supermarket so just bought juice.

Waitrose own brand high juice doesn't, I believe

Cancer Research UK say that sweeteners don't cause cancer.

It's the marketing that's at fault, allthegoodusernames. Cartoon characters on the boxes, TV adverts where small children are having an ecstatic time eating sweet sugary crap. Children follow children, if they see others like them eating, drinking, doing something, they want to do it too.

And the pressure on parents to cave and just 'buy one box'. And the kids eat it and enjoy it and parents want their kids to eat food and enjoy it, so they buy more. And it becomes a habit.

I was born in 1960. No TV. We only had those sweet cereals once a year, when we were given a selection box of them at Christmas. It was porridge or plain cornflakes the rest of the year!

I agree I don't want that shit. At least my body understands sugar

I'm gradually replacing sugar with stevia, but it's a product (SweetLeaf) with no other artificial sweeteners mixed with it. Many stevia products have artificial sweeteners listed in the ingredients. I avoid aspartame altogether because it's a known migraine trigger, and can cause severe headaches in people not known to get migraines.

Stevia has a different flavour to sugar, but what kind of sugar? Beet sugar has never tasted like sugar to me at all, cane sugar does and it's sweeter than beet sugar too.

SweetLeaf says one sachet equals two teaspoons of sugar; I have sachets for away from home and a jar of the loose powder at home. I'm trying to reduce carbs as well. That's another minefield.