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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

675 replies

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 18:42

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

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polarpercy · 29/06/2018 19:30

Am I also alone in being impressed at seeing tears at 75m?! Or is that just my poor eyesight!

Mymouthgetsmeintrouble · 29/06/2018 19:31

I dont get mumsnet , its ok for a teacher to scream in a childs face but if a husband does it to his wife its ltb , both totally unacceptable imo , i have organised many many trips and never screamed at a child

StepBackNow · 29/06/2018 19:31

Maybe you should just mind your own business, eh?

polarpercy · 29/06/2018 19:33

Who said the teacher screamed in their face? Raising your voice does not mean screaming in the face

Aeroflotgirl · 29/06/2018 19:34

I agree with the majority on here, they needed a ruddy good bollocking, their actions are irresponsible and have serious ramifications. The poor teacher was probably scared whitless for a whole manner of reasons. He had no way of knowing when they were going to come back, and what happened to them. So him giving them a roasting was and part of that fear. Yes he is a professional, but he is human too. If that had been my child, I would have given them a right bollocking. I don't care, better they never do that again and be safe, than something far worse.

GoldenWonderwall · 29/06/2018 19:35

Once waited 50 mins for some late girls on a theme park trip. They didn’t see the problem with holding up 100+ other teens and staff. I wouldn’t be rushing to take another load.

smallchanceofrain · 29/06/2018 19:35

They're just lucky the teacher wasn't Mr Evil Jones, my former maths teacher. He'd have hit them on the head with a board rubber and possibly thrown a chair at them too. Ah, they don't make teachers like they used to.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 29/06/2018 19:36

Sometimes,raised voice is required for emphasis,for urgency,together point across
The girls shouldn’t have been late.the effect upon pupils kept on a swell bus. The parents hanging about at school
The teacher anxiety of missing pupils must have been off the scale

CadyHeron · 29/06/2018 19:36

Where does it say screamed in a child's face?! Confused At this rate it'll have been embellished to he pulled her back to the coach by her ear. Hmm

NotTakenUsername · 29/06/2018 19:36

smallchanceofrain Grin

SingingTunelessly · 29/06/2018 19:37

75 metres away and you saw and heard all this? Methinks it might be OP’s daughter who has come home from a school trip after having been shouted. Any teachers herding children today in this heat need a medal. I couldn’t do it. May I offer Gin to all teachers.

divadee · 29/06/2018 19:37

I have taken students on these kids of trips. Normally 70+ 16+ in age. Being kate can serious consequences with coach travel. The driver can only do x amount of hours before he has to stop for a 12 hour period I think it is. So these girls holding up the coach could of caused a lot more of a delay than 20 minutes.

I also think it's incredibly selfish. We used to get it all the time. I have places to be and a family to see. So do other staff members and so do other students.

Mousefunky · 29/06/2018 19:38

Ahh get a grip. My teachers shouted at us until they were red in the face sometimes, we survived. 20 minutes is a long ass time to be late back and leave everyone else waiting.

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 19:38

Polarpercy I wasn’t close enough to hear what the girls said, just what the teacher shouted because he was shouting so loudly.

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Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 19:40

Polar I couldn’t see tears, but you can tell by someone rubbing eyes and body language that they are crying.

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Oldagepensioner · 29/06/2018 19:40

It’s no wonder teachers are leaving the profession in droves. Education is so important and I think teachers get far too much shit, from pupils and even worse, parents.

LittleCandle · 29/06/2018 19:40

Nothing wrong with a bit of humiliation. Pity more parents don't teach their children that they are not the be-all and end-all and then the teacher wouldn't need to humiliate them. I imagine quite a bit of the volume was sheer relief as well as anger. You clearly know fuck all about being a teacher and in charge of all these young people. I hope the parents of these kids also gave them a rocket, but I suspect they are like you, OP, and will complain about the teacher and tell their kids that it doesn't matter if they were late.

Personally, I have no qualms about taking on teachers if I know they were in the wrong. In this case? He was clearly in the right!

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 19:42

mymouth I guess if husbands now say she was late and made my stressed it will be ok!

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LipstickHandbagCoffee · 29/06/2018 19:42

So you couldn’t actually hear or see all that went on
However on that basis you’re inciting a parent to complain on your account

Coolaschmoola · 29/06/2018 19:42

I was at a similar place with a trip yesterday. There is no way I would ever scream at any of my students. I would ask why they were late and if it was a crap reason I would bollock them, and they'd know they were in the shit, but I'd do it in that terrifying ice cold, controlled way. I might even throw is a 'disappointed' for good measure.

Scream at them? Hell no.

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 19:43

littlecandle so if someone makes you mad you shout at them?

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Aeroflotgirl · 29/06/2018 19:44

At least it got the message across, that is the main thing. If he has said "ahh don't worry girls, take a seat, I know that you were enjoying yourselves, your here now and that is all that matters", how is that kind of thing effective. If I was a teacher I might have been saying that to them, whilst banning them from future school trips as punishment.

Craftsandfun · 29/06/2018 19:44

20 mins is a long time. I wouldn’t mind if my children were shouted at that for that. It’s disrespectful not being on time to all your fellow students and your teachers.

Bingpot · 29/06/2018 19:46

Sorry but this is ridiculous. Some pupils behave appallingly and do deserve a stern talking to. Sometimes as a teacher, you need to raise your voice to make clear the severity of the situation. If they do that every day in the classroom, yes that's unprofessional. But I've had to do the same as this teacher you're describing on a trip with y7 who were being extremely rude to a member of the public. Should I just have had a polite conversation with them? A detention back at school? Not with those kids - that would have meant very little to them. As teachers, we have to gauge the situation and treat the child accordingly. And I'm sorry but if it was truly as bad as you suggest it was then why on earth didn't you intervene? Because I think you inherently understand that you don't know the full situation, they weren't in any danger of any sort whatsoever and it has nothing to do with you, you just want to slag off someone trying to do their thankless, stressful, under-paid job.

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 19:47

lipstick I could clearly hear what the teacher was shouting, I couldn’t hear what the girls said and I have sent the person who has posted there daughter was there a message with full details of exactly what the teacher shouted when the second teacher went over the shouting stopped.

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