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Original poster

Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

675 replies

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 18:42

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

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dragonara53 · 30/06/2018 20:00

Judging by the lack of respect teachers get these days and how they can't give the cane anymore to little bastards. Maybe it's time people just homeschooled their own brats. And the op should mind their own business. You don't know the full story. It was nothing to do with you.

Newsofas · 30/06/2018 20:01

I assume the teacher was completely stressed out with worry. When do you call the parents to tell them. When do you ask Thorpe Park what to do. As far as the teacher was concerned the girls were lost. Serves them right. Perhaps they won’t be late again.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 20:02

Spotthedot, I agree 100%.

The banter of certain 'professionals' on this thread has been an eye opener.

Thecrabbypatty · 30/06/2018 20:02

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mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 20:06

Clyde

7. Can you describe uniform or bus/transport?

Are you suggesting that the students had to wear uniform on a 30 degree day?

Ohmydayslove · 30/06/2018 20:07

the banter of certain professionals on this thread has been an eye opener

Not a teacher but mum of 6 who always supported the teachers.

Sadly for those kids whose parents are always up the school complaining their teenage years and uni/work starts are doubly hard as they suddenly realise the world doesn’t revolve around them and mummy and daddy can’t fight all their battles.

Poor kids. Spoiling kids is so abusive

planetsweet · 30/06/2018 20:07

I assume the teacher was completely stressed out with worry

Then they are in the wrong job. A couple of pupils, 20 minutes late, at a theme park and they are completely stressed out with worry?!

mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 20:08

Would you care to elaborate on your baffling google comment, thecrabbypatty?

Teateaandmoretea · 30/06/2018 20:08

Wearing school uniform to Alton Towers would be far more traumatic to the average teen than being told off regardless of the temperature surely

melonribenia · 30/06/2018 20:11

I'm also interested to hear alternative punishments ideas.

Thecrabbypatty · 30/06/2018 20:12

mathanxiety could you do the honours and Google the meaning of in loco parentis to argue my last comment and explain how it does not match the role described?

planetsweet · 30/06/2018 20:13

Lol@clyde5591’s 7 point list and demand for answers!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/06/2018 20:15

The kids richly deserved whatever bollocking they got. No excuse for forgetting the time nowadays, they've all got phones they're glued to much of the time anyway.
Not that they will probably give much of a toss.
Some other sanction is called for IMO - something they will give a toss about.

Friend's dd is a teacher and often takes kids on trips - there are often one or two who cause no end of hassle and inconvenience.

Ohmydayslove · 30/06/2018 20:24

planetsweet you do realise that bolloking them was actually the responsible thing an adult can do don’t you? You know preparing them for real life??

Jesus Christ seriously this thread!

Teateaandmoretea · 30/06/2018 20:28

Not that they will probably give much of a toss.Some other sanction is called for IMO - something theywillgive a toss about.

Well yeah like getting left behind as another poster pointed out. That was the threat 26 years ago when I went on a school trip to Alton towers aged still 15 after GCSEs. Needless to say no one was late my life wouldn't have been worth living if DM had had to come and retrieve me.

planetsweet · 30/06/2018 20:30

Ohmydayslove Preparing them for what? A lifetime of public humiliation? People not being able to keep their tempers or act professionally when in a paid position in public? What a role model!

mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 20:44

Aragog
Dd and friends were late for a meeting point at a theme park once. They were stuck on a ride which broke down, for about twenty minutes or so. Luckily it was a ride you could have a bag on and they were able to call another friend to explain. And they called again as soon as off and ran as fast as they could to meet them. Luckily it was the meet up in the middle of the day so they didn't keep everyone waiting in a hot bus.

Did these girls call anyone to say they were late? Or did they just saunter up casually with a couldn't care type attitude?

Or were they stuck on a ride without their bags or their phones?

So many questions, but so many people leaping in to say the girls deserved every very audible syllable of the public humiliation they got...

CadyHeron · 30/06/2018 20:52

Ohmydayslove Preparing them for what? A lifetime of public humiliation?

A lifetime of public humiliation? A teacher shouted at a pupil, big fucking deal.
Good God, this thread!

planetsweet · 30/06/2018 21:01

I think there are two separate points here. Whether the girls deserved to be screamed at, and a teacher screaming in public.

Pupils not turning up at an agreed time is letting the school down. They may have been lost and had no phones, they may be bad mannered and planned the disruption, it may have been a simple accident, a good day out and they lost track of time. They needed to be reprimanded and some think that being screamed at after the event, once they were found safe Is the way to deal with any of these scenarios. Some don’t.

A teacher screaming in public is letting the school down. He may have been stressed, not like his job, not being able to control his temper, know the girls well and knows they were going if just to get to him, they may have been talking back or not caring enough for him. He chose to scream.

The teacher is the paid professional adult. His behaviour shocked enough to warrant someone’s post on the internet.

Reprimanding a child who was 20 minutes late does not equal screaming in public. Other, more professional people, would have dealt with the situation differently.

planetsweet · 30/06/2018 21:03

CadyHeron It obviously is a big deal to many, just not to you. You may be used to it, others aren’t.

CadyHeron · 30/06/2018 21:13

CadyHeron It obviously is a big deal to many, just not to you. You may be used to it, others aren’t.

So what the hell are teachers supposed to DO, then?

Detentions for some kids will have them not giving a toss,wearing it as a badge of honour (as said upthread by a teacher)
Don't raise your voice and shout, as the little darlings could quite easily be traumatised for life.

Maybe a "not very pleased with you Jemima, was a little rude of you to keep us all waiting like that.Could you get back on the bus now please, sweetums?"
Yeah, that'll work GREAT.

CadyHeron · 30/06/2018 21:18

His behaviour shocked enough to warrant someone’s post on the internet

To be fair, people are shocked enough to post on the internet if a horse dares to poo in their street.
Not exactly because he was being a scary motherfucka.

MexicanBob · 30/06/2018 21:38

I once "lost" 2 teenage boys from a trip for an hour. I was shitting myself until they turned up (watch had stopped - didn't know the time). My sympathies are totally with the teacher in this.

MexicanBob · 30/06/2018 21:40

"a lifetime of public humiliation"

You couldn't make it up.

NotACleverName · 30/06/2018 21:42

Preparing them for what? A lifetime of public humiliation?

There's nowt quite like a bit of ridiculous hyperbole for a Saturday night.

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