Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

[Zzz1234]

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

Emmmm @extrapianolessons am failing to see where I insulted anyone. @Thecrabbypatty and I were having a bit of banter between ourselves. Who stole YOUR scone? There are some real precious princesses on this today 🙄

Good hope they learnt their lesson. Good to hear a teacher giving the kids a dressing down rather than pussy footing about.

TBH it's refreshing to hear of a teacher actually demonstrating some form of discipline, the teachers at my daughter's school, by all accounts, haven't the balls to deal with unruly kids, as my dd complains on a daily basis of class disruptions, mobile phones being used in class, shouting, bullying all going on in lessons & what do the teachers do? Send the quiet ones out to another room or nothing!

This seems to be at the end of the day. I imagine the teacher had had a fair amount of crap to deal with throughout the day and had probably briefed the children more than once not to be late!! My other guess would be these girls are typically irresponsible and inconsiderate. So stop being snowflakey Zzz1234.

Staples
...staff who are cruel and sarcastic put their colleagues at risk because it provokes a backlash that can build up.
There's a difference between asserting authority and feeling entitled to freak out because things are tough.

Absolutely true in the case of teachers too - the people who have decided to take the low road make it difficult for everyone else.

I wouldn’t mind as a parent. With the behaviour described, the deserved it. And hope they learn from it.

They not the

Crocodile, if you're from NI, the correct term for your passport is 'UK passport'.

(Great) Britain refers to the larger of the two British Isles (though that particular term is up for discussion). 'British' refers to things pertaining to that island. Yes it is used as shorthand for being a UK citizen, but it shouldn't be because it is technically not correct.

Ian Paisley was dead wrong about a lot of things, and it therefore comes as no surprise that he would have used the term British to describe himself. He was a subject of the monarch of the United Kingdom if Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_passport#/media/File:Ukpassport-cover.jpg

MasterBuilders
The you tube generation where everything must be on line is just a mess. The people who are quick to try and bring this teacher down. You have no idea if you weren’t there, or what ops motives are. So think before you jump in on another social media witch hunt.

The so-called 'you tube' generation?
You are complaining about people using social media to expose wrongs and to pursue campaigns that seek to find truth here. The people you disparage and the SM that you dislike are to be thanked for exposing the Magdalene Laundries, the horrors inflicted on children in Industrial Schools, the sale of children for 'adoption' abroad, the shipping of thousands of children to 'homes' in Australia... Not to mention a certain infamous DJ.

It is most interesting to find someone out in the open here whose take on things is that of the Christian Brothers.
You have no idea if you weren’t there, or what ops motives are...
A disgraceful attitude.

FGS - sometimes people actually do deserve to be shouted at and to be made to feel shame for their poor behaviour which seriously and adversely impacts others.

No one dies from being shouted it. Sounds like they deserved it. Worst case scenario they are a bit upset and humiliated.

Maybe next time they will think twice about letting everyone else down.

Some schools/teachers just get on with it. Others whine.

Some parents just get on with decent parenting. Others whine.

Fixed your typos for you, @beehive

Thecrabbypatty Fri 29-Jun-18 22:28:14
qwertyuiopy so it's in loco parentis sometimes (parents can and do shout at their kids when applicable) but a professional job the rest of the time? Which is it?

It's quite sobering to see that a teacher (allegedly, because you can't always trust what you read online after all) doesn't really understand the meaning of 'in loco parentis'.

Hint to Thecrabbypatty - it doesn't mean adopting the persona of the worst sort of parent behaving at their worst.

*HRMTheQueen

Thecrabbypatty Nobody is interested in your goading. Give it a rest.*

I am. It's a funny respite from all the GFs clutching their pearls on this thread tight enough to create diamonds up their arses. I enjoy the Weegie humour even though Ahm a quine maasell.

After 30 years of Scout leader experience, I have every sympathy for the teacher.

And I remember going to Longleat with the school in the 70s for those having conniptions about schools going to theme parks.

You are very exact re: distance away and length of time pupils were late hence the following -

1. Did you measure the distance before, at the time or after the incident

1. How did you ascertain the lateness of said pupils

1. Could you hear clearly what was said at 75 meters away?

1. Or was it a general impression of what was said?

1. If No. 4 applies - what did you hear? Exact words or general

shouting?

1. Are you related to any pupils on the school trip?

1. Can you describe uniform or bus/transport?

If the above issues can be addressed you may be able to trace this dreadful teacher/s who must have been beside him/theirselves with worry over two pupils missing.

The above issues would need to be clearly addressed before any allegations are made.

“The Scots” is commonplace is the States. Half my neighbours are Scottish and use it!

Really? Scottish Government statistics don't show that amount of emigration. We do have a high number of immigrants with US passports though, second only to the English. I suspect that you're talking about North Americans with a vague ancestral link to Scotland, rather than actual Scots people. Dariusz or Ali down the road are considered more Scots than such Americans by yer actual Scottish population. Oh, and despite what my passport may say, I'm Scottish not British, and the Butcher's Apron will never represent me despite my years in military service to HM Elizabeth Queen of Scots.

Oh, and despite what my passport may say, I'm Scottish not British, and the Butcher's Apron will never represent me despite my years in military service to HM Elizabeth Queen of Scots

My DP (ex Black Watch) could have written this. I’ve never served but it applies to me too (apart from the service bit)

The pupils let the school down, the teacher let the school down.

Someone mentioned jobs where screaming at someone could put others at risk, this is true in many cases. Maybe not a physical risk but risk to the reputation of a place.

Some people are not nice. They are in every workplace. The teachers that blame the parents, the shop worker who blames the customer, the doctor who blames the patient... and shouts!

These people put their schools/stores/surgeries at risk.

It was unprofessional. Doesn’t mean it was uncalled for, but there are other ways of dealing with errant behaviour. More professional ways. Ways where the pupils are reprimanded and the public don’t witness a teacher acting out of control.

There is a nastiness directed to posters by teachers on this forum. The “they started it” and “come and do it yourself then” excuses are laughable from adults. It is even more ridiculous on an Internet forum because you don’t know who you are talking to. Sarcastically posting “patents whine”, because someone said teachers do, is the same.

You’re supposed to be the professionals. You have trained. You get paid. You have no respect and you come with baggage. If you act like that in rl, you are putting your school at risk as there will be no respect back.

Our school is run on respect. Respect for pupils and parents by teachers and vice versa. It’s a nice place to be. None of you sound happy at your schools. Maybe if the teachers tried some respect towards parents and pupils you could start to change your school also.

(Before you start the “I’ll show respect to them when they show it to me...” that’s your mistake.)

Totally support the Teacher on this one. Im beginning to think school trips will soon vanish, they rely so much on staff goodwill.

Was your daughter at Alton towers? If yes tell her to have some respect for her teachers and fellow classmates and dont leave them waiting in a hot bus for 20mins...totally deserved the bollocking

I see a lot of people saying shouldn’t have shouted.
What Is the suggested alternative punishment? just curious.

Yep good on the teacher far too little bollocking going on in schools now for my comfort and far too much understanding and pandering.

Good for the teacher.

You sound utterly daft op.

I presume we have the capacity to shout very loudly for when circumstances demand. This is one of those circumstances.

SpitThedot

Are your kids little? Guessing yes.

ColoursOfRain Fri 29-Jun-18 21:23:27
And maybe the shouting was deliberate because the teacher knows it's the way to get through to them and other methods don't work.

Clearly the shouting is going well then. Goodness knows how late they would have been without frequent shouting-at.