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AUBU not feeding dd(14) what she wants?

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Lovemusic33 · 29/06/2018 09:07

Dd has major issues with food, she has AS and sensory issues, her diet has always been pretty awful and she lives mainly on Pizza (cheese only), chips and fish cakes. She gets free school meals but because she’s only given a small amount towards a meal she often doesn’t eat as there’s not always pizza in the canteen. I have offered to send her in with extra food but she moans that we don’t have anything in that she likes.

I am trying to provide a healthy meal when she gets home but against n she often doesn’t like the look of what I offer, I try and make healthier varieties of pizza a couple times a week but I’m not serving pizza every night, I have tried to offer jacket potatoes, new potatoes or mash as an alternative to chips but she turns her nose up, she won’t touch meat or veg. Last night she complained at what I gave her which was pizza made from whole meal pita bread and roasted new potatoes, she ate the pizza but refused the potatoes and then said I was starving her. This morning I told her to find something to take to school as a snack, I have plenty of food in but apparently nothing she likes.

AIBU standing my ground and not cooking her pizza every night? I really want her to start trying a few different things but it’s so hard. She has a condition that effects her bones and gaining weight will make that worse (so living in pizza is not ideal), she’s also so pale due to not eating veg or any meat.

She has accused me of spending too much money on other things and not providing her with food, this is not true, there plenty of food in the house, I go shopping twice a week and spend way more than I should. The money she gets for her school meal is enough to buy a meal (the healthy option) but she won’t eat this.

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PickAChew · 29/06/2018 21:33

I feed both of mine what they will eat. Anything else, they treat like a shit sandwich.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/06/2018 21:36

Has Dd2 got sensory issues and ASD Love? If not, I don’t think you can compare their reactions to the food, or lack of.

Flisspaps · 29/06/2018 21:42

As a person with ASD, it is abundantly clear that despite having 2DC with ASD and working with autistic adults you have no insight at all of what it is like to be autistic.

Trying to get your DD to eat anything else outside of her safe foods is akin to expecting you to do a bush tucker trial every night, or go without.

TwoGinScentedTears · 29/06/2018 21:51

OP, there's two things going on here. ASD and teenage behaviour.

I think you'd be wise to stop trying to change the fish cakes or the pizza or the chips she will eat for healthier versions. If she likes a specific brand and will definitely eat them, just buy them. Why battle over that?

Wrt to the teenage behaviour just tell her that she can have a packet of crisps after she's eaten a couple of portions of fruit or whatever. She gets the crisps, you get the fruit into her.

Lovemusic33 · 29/06/2018 21:53

Fliss if you had read my posts you would have seen that she does not go without, she just doesn’t get to live on pizza and crisps when I know she will eat other things. I’m sure most 14 year olds would happily live on unhealthy food if allowed.

She has a diagnosis of Aspergers, she has mild sensory issues, I don’t force her to eat anything, I put new things on her plate next to her normal food. I can’t just let her eat pizza or cheese sandwiches or she gets really poorly with constipation.

Dd1 also has hypermobility (diagnosed), hypertonia/fluctuating muscle tone (diagnosed), dyspraxia (diagnosed) and possible EDS, her bones dislocate and carrying extra weight could be dangerous and potentially put her in a wheelchair. So I’m sure I have a right to be concerned about how her diet may effect these things? I don’t want to see my daughter get more and more ill. She suffers form fatigue, sometimes will spend 2 days in bed, I hate seeing her like this on top of the pain she gets. I’m just trying to encourage her to add a few things to her diet that could possibly help her other conditions. She can’t live in cheese, bread and tomato purée (oh and crisps)?

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CheshireChat · 29/06/2018 22:13

So she has crisps, plain pizza and chips on her favourite list and that's all she wants to eat.

And she has blueberries, bananas, yogurts on her 'safe'/acceptable list, but she'd rather have her favourites and is kicking off.

I'd negotiate something 1 item of the safe list for 2 packs of crisps or similar if that would work.

The other posters seem to have ignored you need to be careful with junk food for your other DD's sake as well.

FlowersCake for you as it sounds exhausting overall.

Lovemusic33 · 29/06/2018 22:22

It is exhausting and I worry about her health.

Her favourites list is, crisps, cheese, bread, pizza, chips (oven chips or chip shop) and fish cakes.

Her safe list, spaghetti hoops, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, banana, jacket potato (inside only and has to have cheese on it), yoghurt and crumpets.

Everything else is a no go, most things she won’t even try because she doesn’t like the look of them.

We are going out for a picnic tomorrow and I have bought her raspberries and blueberries, I will try and encourage her to eat some of these before offering her crisps and cake, if I’m lucky she will eat a few.

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KitchenFloor · 29/06/2018 22:30

I'm no dietician but is she getting any iron? That can often cause exhaustion. And dairy prevents intake :(
What's breakfast, anything fortified?

Lovemusic33 · 29/06/2018 22:41

Kitchen the only iron I can get into her is in strawberries (my garden is producing loads) but she rarely eats them, the lack of meat means she isn’t getting hardly any.

She often refuses breakfast because she leaves for school early and doesn’t really eat before 9am, she often has cake or a biscuit from the canteen at break time. At the weekends she will have toast for breakfast. She will eat weetabix but will ask for toast instead.

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Debfronut · 29/06/2018 22:49

As a mum of 2 aspies who have food issues I gave them what they wanted. Both as they hit late teens widened their list of foods but are still picky. It is a battle you will not win and will only make her worse. You have a real risk of anorexia and self harm. Take her shopping and enlist her help. My son ate pizza every single day for nine years for dinner and nothing else. He is still as healthy as he can be and I have not added to his mental issues.

Ummmmgogo · 29/06/2018 23:00

you sound like a wonderful mum. no experience of autism but could you just buy foods from the safe list and no favourites for a couple of weeks? teenagers often claim they are being starved when there's no junk food in the house I know I used to say that lol.

and I'm sure you are good at your job, ignore the nasty comments x

eurgh · 29/06/2018 23:40

I apologise that I haven't read all the comments as I've only just found the thread and need to go to bed. But as a mum of 2 with ASD, YABU!

My 2yo is sensory seeking so she eats lots of flavours and textures. Her favourite is a chicken tikka masala. My 6yo on the other hand is sensory averse and has MAJOR food issues. It's not his fault he only eats 6 different foods, he's not fussy, it's just they are the only foods he finds tolerable. It is NOT a case of they'll eat when they're hungry. Feed your child what they want or else they are really going hungry.

If you want to introduce more foods, ask for a GP referral to an SPD workshop or find one and enrol. They will teach you the right way to try and get your child to try new foods.

rosesandflowers1 · 30/06/2018 11:25

Would she take those effervescent iron tablets?

DS had an iron deficiency and that's what we gave him. You put the tablets into water and they dissolve into it.

colditz · 30/06/2018 17:40

Part of her wanting crisps might be crunch seeking - it’s a sensory behaviour. Offer carrot sticks or ryvitas with a dip if she has ever eaten them before.

colditz · 30/06/2018 17:43

I disagree with you, eurgh. You have a toddler and you can’t reason with them, asd or not. Some kids with asd can be reasoned with, can be persuaded, can be bribed and can be desensitised as a result. It’s hard but it can work. Op has a teenager who has eaten the foods being refused before and who just wants crisps. Sometimes behaviour is simply personality and teenager rebellion, not asd. Asd is a complicating factor.

Lovemusic33 · 30/06/2018 17:45

Deb as I have stated, dd has eaten pizza almost every day for 12 years. This isn’t just about her mental health, as I stated she has other conditions that effect her mobility.

eurgh as stated above, she has seen dieticians and had her sensory issues looked at by several occupational therapists, I attended the SPD course. She refuses to come shopping with me, refuses to cook with me and refuses to write a list of foods.

Rose I have looked for iron tablets for her, it might be easier now she’s older as she maybe able to take adult vitimans (thow she’s likely to refuse), not many children’s vitimans have iron in them or not enough for what she needs. I will have a closer look into it.

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rosesandflowers1 · 30/06/2018 19:15

I will have a closer look into it.

We got them at Boots if that helps. DS didn't exactly like the taste, but he didn't mind it.

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 30/06/2018 19:17

Not giving her exactly what she wants all the time might work for her. Posters are saying you can't possibly do that because she has ASD, as if all people with ASD will react in the same way - which I find a little insulting tbh!

I hope you find a strategy that works for her. Best of luck to you both Flowers

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