To ask what social class you would say I am?

[flowersandcake]

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

MsConduct Def no titles here in the US honorary or otherwise. Thank goodness. Just causes confusion. My name is my name and is just me. It's so liberating.

I was thinking of Americans with honorary knighthoods from the UK:

www.buzzfeed.com/ukinusa/12-americans-you-probably-didnat-know-are-honora-dp3u?utm_term=.saMdo4Eov#.gylxl34lR

I agree, things are much simpler without them.

Well I've learnt something today, and I love words, chinney reckon!

How far are you from your nearest Waitrose?

Thrilled to bits, when I read these threads, that I am no longer in the UK and contending with this nonsense.

Def no titles here in the US honorary or otherwise. Thank goodness. Just causes confusion. My name is my name and is just me. It's so liberating.

Just so people outside of the UK are clear, class is not something we have to "contend with" on a regular basis, we do not need liberating from it. Please don't think we're all that bothered or that we sit discussing it over a cup of tea and a cucumber sandwich (or a beer and kebab). We don't. Except OP and her chums.

Working/lower middle. Anything else you wouldn’t be asking

really???class or classless? Went to a lecture by Giddens (leading Sociologist in UK) & he said you can tell a person by whether their book case is smaller or bigger than he TV- he was joking - so I (as a lifelong bookworm) said to my tutor said I am definitely upper class :) -when we moved I measured how many book cases I could fit in my house! That was a joke...

The belief that the value of your house is a factor in determining your class is very Daily Mail reader style lower middle class
I do think the OP was just having a laugh and everyone took the bait.

Ooh I like the quiz cycling, it says I'm Upper Class 😂

I may have fallen from grace, had posh parents, massive houses, but then my dad died and my (foreign) mum managed to spend all his life insurance on my schooling and holidays and some bad investments in the 80s.
I'm now a single mum of 3, currently in an ex council house (mortgaged) with a part time poorly paid professional job 😬

Hilarious thread.

Listening to radio 4 and being able to fence don't make you a particular class!

Ps. It's "disdain" not "distain".

I have no idea what 'class' you are, but I do know that you're dying to be perceived as upper class.

Hence the not so stealthy stealth boast about just how much you have/earn, how big your house is, the fact it's mortgage free...

Is it really that important to you? So much so you have to come and have strangers on the internet validate you? For what?
It smacks of desperation.

It's 2018 for God sakes. Just enjoy your comfortable life. They're just possessions at the end of the day, could all be gone tomorrow

Being serious about Waitrose! It’s an indication of the area you live in! 5 bed house worth 900k......mmmmm.....well you obviously don’t live in London! Pony? Weeeelllll Romany folk can say that.
Is this a bit of a piss take?
Is your name Hyacinth by any chance?😂

I really find it hard to believe you have a 'history degree' OP; your spelling is really quite poor. That's coming from someone with an actual history degree who is working class.

I'm just so intrigued because our joint household income is similar to yours - but no way could we afford private sixth form and our house is worth quite a bit less

Misses the point sorry

If she has a degree in History she would know her class / status already imh ( working class ) opinion

This thread is hilarious. Op with her "well I often call it a sitting room" and "terribly sorry I read the guardian and listen to radio 4 don't you know" Her husband is the worst paid banker I have ever met. She gives 10k a year to charity when their take home before pensions is only 65k - really? Plus two holidays a year and Uni fees? Plus The most expensive horse in history. What a load of total bollocks.

Settee or sofa, loo or toilet, serviettes or napkin, sitting room or lounge, tea or supper? And your educational background?

So if someone comes from a very wealthy background and is gifted a beautiful house and a decent lifestyle, without working for it, does that make them upper class?

Same circumstance as above, but the individual worked extremely hard to earn everything they own. Does that make them working class?

Surely the class system and the labels are just a way for people with a bit of money to make themselves feel more superior?

My ex boss for example. He came from a very poor background, he had absolutely nothing and his family worked very hard for the little they had.
He now owns property as well as his own very successful business and is worth millions.
Is he working class?

Fontofnoknowledge your Godmother sounds like a classy lady. I wish I could be half as together as her.

As for the OP, I’m not sure what class she is, but I know she’s not what I’d call classy.

I go in Waitrose sometimes but I always feel a bit of an imposter! ‘Humble class’

You're working class if you think being middle class would be better than being working class and don't realise that being middle class is actually being the least cool and most detestable class of all (to British culture, not in any objective sense).

You're middle class if you know that the middle class is the most uncool and detestable (but of course wouldn't trade your places with the working class because well, it is comfortable in the middle and anyway, they'd never accept you).

You're upper class if you have the social security to not concern yourself with class at all, although plenty of middle class people try and feign the attitude it provides they don't really succeed.

You're not upper class. You are middle class

@angieloumc
I studied history before I switched to Computer Science and spelling never came into it (plus I wrote all my essays on computers that had spell check).

Oh, and I’m laughing at the idea that listening to Radio 4 makes you of a higher class. I’m definitely working class, verging on underclass as certain points in my life, and I love Radio 4. I’ve always thought radio is pretty much one of the cheapest forms of entertainment and never linked it to class. Is the suggestion that the working class can’t be interested in current affairs, literature, history etc? If so, you can’t be WC because I know lots of working class people who are very interested in those things.