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Pissed off by how many holidays she goes on?

140 replies

LuxeLisbon · 21/06/2018 19:05

She works part time in a minimum wage job and he’s unemployed ... yet they are probably on their 10th holiday of the year.

He’s a well known dealer in this area.

Just shit to see people benefiting from pretty much ruining lives

OP posts:
Gemini69 · 21/06/2018 22:07

Ignore them OP ..

hididdlyhoneighborino · 21/06/2018 22:08

Lol your moral compass is off if your concern is their holidays and not the fact they're dealing enough drugs to afford them

MyNameIsNotSteven · 21/06/2018 22:10

I'd like a job that gives me enough annual leave to take ten holidays a year.

Deshasafraisy · 21/06/2018 22:11

If drugs were decriminalised then they would be out of business. It’s the way forward.

BlueLegume · 21/06/2018 22:14

The solution to your issue of envy regarding the holidays is to report them to the police or the benefits agency.
If you don’t like the police but have sufficient information for them then then your post simply smacks, excuse the pun, of envy.

JockTamsonsBairns · 21/06/2018 22:14

Sodding My experiences are so similar to yours, dv and multiple instances of violent rape by my ex-h. I reported it to the police, they couldn't have cared less of they tried. Once, I was raped at knifepoint on the living room floor while our 3yo cried "Please daddy, don't kill mummy". I went to the police station the next day to report it, and the officer said (direct quote) "and what is it you want me to do about it?" . 48 hours later, I made a 999 call whilst barricaded in the bathroom after ex-h attempted to strangle me. They tipped up FOUR DAYS later.
I totally understand your anger. There is absolutely nothing that could happen that would make me contact the police now.

LuxeLisbon · 21/06/2018 22:56

It annoys me the blatant showing off of something I’d be fucking ashamed to do.

I’m sorry but the people saying report them to the police are just dumb and don’t get how the real world works outside of their little middle class bubble.

OP posts:
Gemini69 · 21/06/2018 23:04

It annoys me the blatant showing off of something I’d be fucking ashamed to do

I’m sorry but the people saying report them to the police are just dumb and don’t get how the real world works outside of their little middle class bubble

I'm not sure what is it you're asking OP .... you know that reporting them is the only option.. but you won't do that... so what is your AIBU?

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 21/06/2018 23:05

I'm loving the idea that the police will do anything if OP phones them and says this guy's dealing. Also, yes, it's pretty common for dealers to have cards and flyers. They don't say "Get your drugs here" on them though, so again no point handing it over to the police.

Dealers have gangs. The police are a gang. Depending on which side of the fence you're on, one gang is less bad than the other, maybe.

MaluCachu · 21/06/2018 23:11

I know a family like this.Think they’re the local mafia.The whole family are well known to the police yet they still swan around/new cars/SEVERAL hols/etc.They’re all knuckledraggers who can barely string a sentence together.

AmericanEskimoDoge · 21/06/2018 23:19

Hm. Feeling very thankful for my little middle class bubble, to be honest...

I wouldn't associate with those people. If you won't turn him in/don't think it will make a difference, at least there's no reason why you have to hear about their latest trip.

(But it's unreasonable to not at least try to turn him in. So what if someone else comes along to take his place? It might still make a positive difference for someone. But no, that's just the middle class bubble talking, so never mind.)

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 21/06/2018 23:24

Honestly, just let them be. Sometimes we are on the up, sometimes we are on the down. I hear your pain. Never compare yourself to others, we are all on a different path. Some might have holidays in their plenty, then something terrible could happen and they might not ever be able to travel again.....

Just leave them. And if you are tight for cash. grow a couple of plants ;) At least you know who can sell them too.

Giving him a criminal record will not help him in the long run. I'd let him get on with it, generally these people come a cropper on their own.

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 21/06/2018 23:31

Even the successful ones who go on for what seems like forever are surrounded by enemies. And not just enemies like a boss who is mean to you but really nasty dangerous bastards. They've obviously decided that that's how they want to live but to my mind it's a poor trade off, to always be thinking about who's going to try to do you over next and what you're going to do about it. I get that it's annoying, but do you honestly want that life? I mean, the whole life and everything that goes with it?

Brieonabagel · 21/06/2018 23:36

I know one of these! She has cosmetic surgery every year and is a self employed ‘beautician’ she gives loads of the local girls lip plumping treatment for a hefty price (she’s also the cleaner for her local church but never admits to that) drives a lovely car... her dh is unemployed but they still manage holidays to America, Spain, Cuba etc every year! He’s clearly a dealer Hmm

sleep5 · 22/06/2018 04:44

I agree that drugs are widespread and the police have given up on them in some areas - where I live in c London being a case in point - dealers pretty much operate freely.

You can always report them anonymously to the police and benefits people. The police probably won't do anything as they're overloaded and have lost thousands of staff under May. The benefits people will be better - that's if she's on the dole.

lifechangesforever · 22/06/2018 05:19

This is the most backward thread I've ever read.

You won't do anything about it so stop complaining!

If you didn't socialise with these people, you wouldn't know how many holidays they were going on would you?

And no, drugs aren't everywhere. They're becoming more popular, yes, but you can live in perfectly nice areas without being able to see any hint of them and therefore you wouldn't get so wound up.

Written from my 'middle class bubble'. Hmm

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 22/06/2018 06:24

I can completely understand not liking/trusting the police. JockTamsons experiance is a case in point. Flowers to you Jock

However: I'm now in a position to have stuff to do with the police at cheif inspector level and one of their main frustrations is areas where "everyone knows" drug dealing is going on and yet no one reports anything.

People assume that theres no point reporting anything because "everyone knows" whats going on. And then they complain that the police arent doing anything about this stuff that "everyone knows" about. And its true- everyone (including the police) does know. But the police still can't act without reports coming in.

I know of an area where the police have set up a task force to tackle dealing and one of the things they've had to do is go door to door, reassuring people that they do want to do something and inviting them to report stuff.

By all means, if contact with the police is traumatic for you- don't be the one to do it. But someone does need to give them something to go on.

Zebra31 · 22/06/2018 06:28

I’m sorry but the people saying report them to the police are just dumb and don’t get how the real world works outside of their little middle class bubble.

You are assuming people responding are all middle class. You need to really consider getting that chip off your shoulder. Your version of the real world is messed up and you clearly have no intention to do anything about it (for yourself or the area you live in). Well, other than moan about the dealer/delears girlfriend enjoying numerous holidays. Hmm

If you want different results in your life than what you’re getting, you have to try different approaches. But, you choose not to take any of the options suggested.

On that not I will leave you to carry on complaining about the drug dealers holidays.

LuxeLisbon · 22/06/2018 06:43

Oh stop telling me not to complain about stuff. Aibu is full of people complaining. I can say what I want. If you don’t like it then don’t read, but don’t yet your knickers in a twist.

There is NO SOLUTION. The police do fuck all.

I don’t see drugs in my area, but I know they exist because I’m not blinded by my naivety.

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Nicknacky · 22/06/2018 06:44

I thought he has previously been arrested?

JockTamsonsBairns · 22/06/2018 08:08

Thanks unlimited. It surprises me a bit to learn that the police are "inviting people to report" drug dealers. The people in the Op are clearly not your two-bit dealers in the street if they're according ten holidays a year - they'll be higher up the chain. The last person i knew of to report drug related activity at that level was bundled into the boot of a car, driven a couple of hundred miles away and had both their kneecaps shattered with a sledgehammer. I'm not sneering at the aforementioned 'middle class bubble', but perhaps a lot of people aren't aware of the likely repercussions when they suggest "just report them to the police"?
The reporter i knew had his life completely ruined - he never walked again, or was able to work. He had to move, with his wife and kids, to the other end of the UK for their own protection. No arrests were ever made, for the drug dealing or the attack. It really doesn't surprise me that people don't want to report it. I know i wouldnt.

LuxeLisbon · 22/06/2018 08:28

thought he has previously been arrested?

Yup and got off with no charges.

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endofthelinefinally · 22/06/2018 08:36

Why should people risk their safety and that of their families when everyone, including the police, know exactly who and where these people are and what they do?

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 22/06/2018 09:27

It surprises me a bit to learn that the police are "inviting people to report" drug dealers

I found it interesting. They seemed to be approaching it almost like a community organising drive.
I guess the idea was to embolden people who may not like the situation but were scared to do anything about it.
And also to reassure folk that something was going on and they would be taking that risk for a reason.
I don't think they were inviting people to grass up high level dealers though. More reporting very obvious public dealing. It would have been tough to work out exactly who had grassed, preciesly because "everyone knows".
At the same time, there was a campaign of subjecting the (very visible) drug dealers cars to traffic stops.
I think the police also supported the formation of a community group and had some interesting discussions about whether it was possible to stop junkies being a nuisance while similtaniously allowing dealing to continue because its "just business after all". Spoiler: It isn't.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 22/06/2018 09:29

I don't think it put anyone at risk- because everyone got a visit. So you wouldn't be able to single anyone out as a grass simply because the police had been to their door.

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