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School and 'rules' re shorts under dress

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oblada · 20/06/2018 07:23

Before I take this further quick 'poll'; does your school insist that girls wear shorts under their dress if they want to mess about at break time in a way that could involve someone seeing their knickers? Would you expect a rule like this? My daughter is saying that her school and her after school club have told her off for doing gymnastic 'moves' during break time whilst wearing a dress with no shorts or tights underneath. She says she's been told it's 'rude' because people can see her knickers. She is 6yrs old btw. I think this is completely bonkers and she should be allowed to do as she wish as long as she is not actually showing her 'privates' to people on purpose. Underpants are underpants and are not offensive (to me). Of course I don't know yet how much she has actually been told off, or whether it's peer pressure rather than school so I'll go and ask later. But thought I'd gather some views!

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Hausfullofgrls · 21/06/2018 00:03

I'm 31 and I wear shorts under my dresses. I also advise my girls to wear shorts under their dresses. Makes climbing/sitting/playing/etc much easier. I don't want anyone seeing my under things. Schools always have silly rules, but as long as they don't hurt the child, don't get upset. Just go along and soon enough they'll be onto the next stage of life.

bridgetreilly · 21/06/2018 00:38

When I was at primary school in the 70s and 80s we had uniform knickers. Which were almost like shorts. Huge great things in thick navy blue. Nothing could ever show if you were wearing those, but pp are right about ordinary knickers today. They don't reliably cover what they are supposed to. If your underwear is doing its job of covering up your bits, then wearing shorts is unnecessary. But if it isn't, and it seems like a lot of girls' pants don't, then wearing shorts is a very good idea, imo.

MagicNumberyThings · 21/06/2018 00:39

Hausfullofgrls

You are a refreshing dose of common sense.

I sense that you are American.

stellenbosch · 21/06/2018 00:44

Girls Should just wear shorts and a polo shirt/blouse as bog standard uniform.
Would be more practical
And less restrictive!

MagicNumberyThings · 21/06/2018 01:08

Girls Should just wear shorts and a polo shirt/blouse as bog standard uniform.
Would be more practical
And less restrictive!

Are you in the UK? That might possibly work from May to September.
All the other months we have to get proper wrapped up against the weather. Rain, wind, cold, storms, hail, snow. We have winter lows of - 10

Shorts and a polo shirt would be asking for trouble.

SoddingUnicorns · 21/06/2018 05:57

Girls Should just wear shorts and a polo shirt/blouse as bog standard uniform.
Would be more practical
And less restrictive!

Or girls should be able to choose what they wear without them or their parents getting slated for it?

Bibesia · 21/06/2018 06:06

Hausfull, how does wearing shorts make sitting, climbing and playing much easier for you? How much climbing and playing do you do when wearing dresses? And how hard can the act of sitting actually be?

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 21/06/2018 06:22

Sodding which is precisely what my DD does. She'd like city shorts, but we couldn't find her size, even online, she doesn't want culottes, so she's in summer dresses.

YoThePussy · 21/06/2018 06:34

This has brought back the memory of seeing a girl of around 6-7 standing outside a shop shouting ‘Oops a daisy, show your bum’ repeatedly and flashing her knickers at everyone inside. Now that is what I call rude!

SoddingUnicorns · 21/06/2018 06:36

@PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks DD isn’t keen on the culottes but she has 2 pairs of the city shorts with the buttons that she likes. And summer dresses because she wouldn’t manage the play suit ones without getting herself into an awful pickle.

AJPTaylor · 21/06/2018 06:40

no rule at dds school.
however lots of girls just wearing grey school shorts this year. no issue at all.

liz70 · 21/06/2018 07:39

"Why is it a 'pair' of knickers? A pair of pants? A pair of trousers?
There is only one item of clothing. Why is it a pair?"

Because historically, a pair of drawers, pantaloons etc. comprised of a two separate tubes of materia, open at the inner sides from waist to crotch iyswim, lthat the wearer "drew" i.e. pulled on (hence drawers), and tied or buttoned at the waist. Thus the term pair of drawers, bloomers and so on. Although underwear and leg coverings have been single garments since the early 20th century, the term has stuck, so we still say pair of knickers, shorts etc. even now.

Eddierussett · 21/06/2018 09:01

Saw a school group the other day where the uniform was gingham playsuit rather than gingham dresses. Seemed a sensible solution

SirVixofVixHall · 21/06/2018 09:02

Liz you beat me to it, I was about to post about pairs of drawers. I have some somewhere from about 1870, I will post a picture of them if I can find them, can’t remember where they are.

liz70 · 21/06/2018 09:34

"materia"
material, obviously. Blush

user1499173618 · 21/06/2018 09:48

Why is a “play suit” a sensible solution? A gingham playsuit makes me think of S&M dress up...

Battleax · 21/06/2018 09:53

Why is a “play suit” a sensible solution? A gingham playsuit makes me think of S&M dress up...

Maybe you’re not the beater person to be commenting then Smile

I don’t even want to link to a school uniform play suit now you’ve said that.

Battleax · 21/06/2018 09:53

best, not beater.

liz70 · 21/06/2018 09:57

"Why is a “play suit” a sensible solution"

Because girls must never ever ever have their nether regions open to the air, even when they are wearing knickers. They must be covered in several layers of material to protect their "modesty". And we thought the Victorians were prudish.
While we're at it, let's just ban skirts and dresses altogether, and make girls have short hair too. So practical!

IrmaFayLear · 21/06/2018 10:04

I agree that the answer is just old-fashioned cotton navy pants. We did PE in vest and pants at primary school, but in furry navy pants that came up to your waist. My mum said that when she was at school navy pants had a pocket in them. How very useful!

I don't like nylon pants full stop (and as for thongs, yeeeeuuch) and I don't think children should be wearing these all day whether in a skirt or not.

BingTheButterflySlayer · 21/06/2018 10:16

Gingham playsuits? Practical? In reception when they've got a cardigan over the top and the whole bloody lot's got to come down to do a short-notice wee and ends up trailing on slightly piddled on toilet floors or dangling down the toilet?! So basically chuck girls under the bus in terms of practicality and convenience to protect the nation's moral outrage that they might catch a flash of pink Skye Paw Patrol knickers?!

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 21/06/2018 10:34

Sodding DD would absolutely love city shorts. I'll have to start buying as soon as they come in the shops next year. The ones we bought online purported to be age 11 - 12 (she's 10), but didn't do up on her and don't have an adjustable waistband. They didn't do them in grey in age 13.

SoddingUnicorns · 21/06/2018 10:36

@PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks sorry if you have already but have you tried Next? Adjustable waist, decent sizing for the right age and they have grey ones. They’re really nice.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 21/06/2018 10:37

Thanks for the tip Sodding! I'll have a look. 😀

SoddingUnicorns · 21/06/2018 10:38

these are the shorts

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